To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/10/24 17:08
Subject: Re: [K-list] RE: fate, destiny, subtle body and soul
From: Pokimontaz
On 1999/10/24 17:08, Pokimontaz posted thus to the K-list:
<< How do you know the past did occur? A memory is no proof. A sense that
the present is the logical consequence of what has gone before is no
proof either. The present could well be the only reality and the past
may well just be a fake memory. >>
Besides memory there are other proofs that the past did occur. Physical
evidence...whereas the memory is just a mental aspect and subject to
influence (i.e if someone tells me something enough I may begin to "remember
it" myself...like something that happened when i was 5). Once the present is
behind us it becomes the past. The present is like a conveyor belt of time,
as time passes we ride the present and place things in the past. A foot
print in the sand can only occur if someone stepped there in the past. It
didnt spontaneously form there in the present. As the person walked there it
was the present but as soon as their foot releases the ground that foot print
is in the past, the near past but nonetheless in the past. Evidence that a
person walked through there is in the foot print, not in my memory of the
person walking there.
Time in and of itself is not man made..the function we place on it is. It is
the realtionship between occurances. Regardless of whether we measure the
time it takes for something...it still happens. The measurement of time is
man-made. Hours, minutes, days, nights...those are measurements created by
man. But even if we didnt comprehend the measurements we would know that
something that did not happen today happened in the past, which was before
today. I know that I have this paper ive written in the past, its sitting
right here in front of me...granted i dont know how old the paper is but i
know i wrote it in the past because it is my hand writing, and i'm not
writing it in the present, and i couldnt have written it in the future
because the future has yet to occur.
<<The theory of time in physics is more like: it all exists
simultaneously, but the future may well be able to influence the past
and therefore the present as well as the present influencing the future
(and maybe the past too).>
How can something that has not occured affect soemthing that has already
occured? Our expectations of the future influence what we do today in
order to obtain (or not obtain) something in the future. What we do today
then becomes the past. The past is unchangeable, the future is uncertain. A
future never occurs for it will always come to be the present, the past
already happened and theres not much you can do about it once it happens.
LyN
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