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Recieved: 1999/10/24 13:16
Subject: Re: [K-list] RE: fate, destiny, subtle body and soul
From: Martin Thompson
On 1999/10/24 13:16, Martin Thompson posted thus to the K-list:
14:02:26 Sun, 24 Oct 1999
at PokimontazATnospamaol.com writes:
>
>You can't feasibly argue that the past did not
>occur....for if there were no past there would not be the present...if there
>were no present I couldnt be here arguing if there is a present or not. =0)
How do you know the past did occur? A memory is no proof. A sense that
the present is the logical consequence of what has gone before is no
proof either. The present could well be the only reality and the past
may well just be a fake memory.
Kinda makes a nonsense of the way we live our lives, though, doesn't it?
>
>But the future is all based on what you make of the present. If you screw up
>somehow and get yourself killed today for you there is no material
>future...you could argue that there is a future in heaven or elsewhere but
>I'm not getting into THAT right now. You could say there is no future
>because once the future comes it is already the present.
The theory of time in physics is more like: it all exists
simultaneously, but the future may well be able to influence the past
and therefore the present as well as the present influencing the future
(and maybe the past too). Time, at best, is a way of looking at this
totality, at worst, a complete illusion as one random but probabilistic
configuration of particles replaces another in no particular sequence
(how that can happen without time, I don't know).
>
>I believe life is what you make of it.
Life deals us the cards, but yes, after that, it seems to be up to us.
> SOme things are destined to happen no
>matter what, and some things we exercise free will over.
The 80-20 rule: Pareto's Law.
> To
>think that we really have no control over what happens so what is the use in
>being here at all except maybe for the enjoyment of some higher power?
Or our own enjoyment.
> As we
>decide what we want the future to hold for ourselves and work for that the
>Future becomes our meaning...it is what we work so hard for and if we fail at
>reaching that then we feel some how "less" or "gipped." It is something that
>we feel was in our hands the whole time and we did something wrong as not to
>have assertained what we wanted in the future...but if we believe that it was
>never in our hands in the first place then people sometimes just give up and
>let opportunites slid past them because "thats the way its supposed to be."
Maybe. Ambition is fun, anyway.
--
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