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Recieved: 1999/10/22 10:02
Subject: Re: Meditative trance (was Re: Re: [K-list] Lost mantras due to
From: Adele Chatelain
On 1999/10/22 10:02, Adele Chatelain posted thus to the K-list:
My note on 'trance' came back from the List, as 'error', so
I'm not sure if everyone got it or not.
I agree totally with Ville. Trance is something that is not
supposed to happen in meditation and if it does, one can
use various techniques to disengage in the trance.
Meditation is about awareness of the present moment. It's
meaning is to be alert....not in a trance. The same thing
is for mantras. Perhaps because most of us don't experience
a deep peace and/or slowing down of the internal processes,
that when they do occur we mistake them to being a 'trance'.
Trance implies mentally being stunned. THat is the opposite
of meditation.
There is, of course, an altered state, but like I mentioned
above, this altered state is a slowing down of the internal
processes. that's why we fall asleep many times when
beginning
to learn how to meditate; our body/mind is not used to being
relaxed except when we are ready to sleep in bed...so when
we relax in meditation, at first, we immediately want to
sleep. Takes a while to work past that.
Meditation is not magical. It's about a process that is
gentle but piercingly alert. The paradox.
Ville, I like the way you always express yourself so
clearly.
Hugs,
Adele
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