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Recieved: 1999/10/08 11:54
Subject: Re: [K-list] The true awakening
From: Martin Thompson


On 1999/10/08 11:54, Martin Thompson posted thus to the K-list:

10:27:37 Fri, 8 Oct 1999
kim fisher at kim fisher <kim_fisherATnospamyahoo.com> writes:
>Martin,
>
>I must say you have a very interesting style.
>
I don't mean to offend.

>Enlightedness cotains a foundation.
>
Of what?

>You are the one whom chooses the path you take. This
>is your free will.
>
Doing that: self-fulfilment.

>A fools paradise contains no source, no life,
>darkness, confussion,alone, no knowelege, no wisdom,no
>truth, no love, a self contained space/ a "box" with
>no air.
>
That is your definition; OK. Why does self-fulfilment lead to a fool's
paradise, in your view? I suspect we have different interpretations of
the term "self-fulfilment."

My definition: All that is. Starting from wherever I find myself. This
can be ego, for example, or id were I to be much younger, or superego
were I to be too strongly socially conditioned. Integrate and enlarge to
include all of "me" then all that is. So, it means, being who I am.
Realising my potential. Expressing what I wish. Creating my reality.
Choosing my path. Ultimately, that will mean transcending "I" if the
sages are to be believed.

What do you mean by self-fulfilment, then, if you consider that a bad
thing?

>Ask yourself this what star are you following?.
>
>--- Martin Thompson <martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> 12:41:18 Thu, 7 Oct 1999
>> kim fisher at kim fisher <kim_fisherATnospamyahoo.com>
>> writes:
>> >Self-fulfillment is a fools paradise
>>
>> So all enlightened people are fools, then?
>>
>> Possibly, in the sense of The Fool tarot card (the
>> name depends on the
>> deck) - the trickster.
>>
Actually, the Fool is not the same aspect as the trickster - I always
seem to link the two in my imagination.

>> Fulfilling our potential seems to me to be what it
>> is all about. To come
>> here and not do what we can sounds sad to me.
>>
>> How does one fulfil one's potential? My guess is by
>> following one's own
>> star.
>> --
--
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