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Well dear Lobster,
You are very persistent in repeating that one sees what one wishes. :-)
Not going to argue it. I will try and see if I can match your conviction in
understanding it. Believe me, I will check it out.
You wrote:
>The idea of the reflective nature of the Universe includes ideas that we
are >the causation of our own being.
So true.
In fact, just today one of my clients discovered that *he was cause and
effect of his own being.*
Pretty much your quote above. Also his words show that he discovered the
original meaning of the word 'karma' as evidenced by his use of the words
"cause and effect," Now, that is neat don't you think. By the way, this
person is hardly familiar with Oriental concepts.
He was absolutely delighted...
Then he made another discovery, "I will take credit for anything real,
truthful and energetic, as it is pure energy from the core of my being! But
anything negative...? I may have bought it previously, and as such was led
to believe that I owned it. But now I know that I bought it under
duress...from an outside source. Negativity does not come from the core of
my being, I know that now. Negativity does not even have substance. Yes
there may be resistance to the force of my being, but that is only illusive
resistance, intimidation brought about by fear. It may slow me down
somewhat, my divine energy. But that resistance is not mine nor caused by
me. After all we do not operate in a vacuum."
>Your explanation is from a therapeutic or psychological view. As such if
>people are in a situation that involves great suffering to say that people
>have willed this into being would be counter productive.
I know you don't mean it that way, but what you are saying there is not so
cool, the minute I find I play tricks on my clients I will stop being
effective... and I will start looking for help myself :-)
Thanks Lobster, for your generous tenacity.
You definitely picked up on graciousness :-)
Yes bite me now.
Love, Wim
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