To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/10/03 19:24
Subject: Re: Visualisations (Was: Re: [K-list] INTENT)
From: Wim Borsboom
On 1999/10/03 19:24, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Magne,
Appreciate your post.
Have patience with me, I might just be confused, I am not kidding.
You wrote:
>There's a tantric meditation which uses the "mirror" to create and manifest
>things. (snip) but to call the mirror-meditation a "recent,
>new-age gobbledegook" is neither correct nor fair.
Sorry, did not think I was dealing with the 'mirror meditation' or
commenting on that. Was dealing with how in this new-age-of-late, old
western guilt ridden morals are sneeking in and retarding effective
reintegrative and self regenerative efforts.
>There's a tantric meditation which uses the "mirror" to create and manifest
>things. (snips)
>Use the mirror to *Recreate Eden*, so to say. What you see, will be !
In view of my recent post about Adam, Vishnu, Brahman, this might be timely.
Was not aware that it worked that way, I'll check it out, hope that what it
implicates is wrong... I wish that what it implicates is wrong...
What is wrong here?
You are not a result of my mirrored wishes that you exist now? Are you?
What am I in your mirror, where did you pull me up from, and why?
WERE you before I read your e-mail? If so, when were you and where?
Was Angelique pissed off before I actually read her posting or did she have
to get pissed off after I read her post so that she had to get pissed off
before I wrote this. Did you by any chance cause her to be pissed off
because you emailed me?
Even though all this may sound fascetious, I would like to give this another
try, I went through this misery before and decided then to throw it out,
made me feel a whole lot better, well I seem to encounter this again so deal
with me....
>(snip) to perform "astral journeys", to experience out-of-body states.
I must be pretty darn good at that mirror meditation then :-)
>The mirror in front of our 3rd eye, does not radiate images of its own. It
>reflects whatever is projected into it.
Where does this 'whatever' come from? What causes me to project what?
What would cause me to want see misery or happiness?
When is that choice made, why?
I really want to know! Am I asking the wrong questions?
This is what I live by:
Love and love only, just saying this makes the nectar flow, bliss recovered.
Love you whole heartedly, You don't need to answer the questions above.
Just before I interjected the paragraph above I wrote:
The method that we use to recover whatever realms of reality, does not say
anything about the realms of reality themselves.
A knife will not say anything about the reality of a loaf of bread.
After we disect a human cadaver what do we know about a living being?
I looked to the Buddha to find out about illusion, he was willing to help.
He eventually talked about 'nothing' and I got some of it.
Saw that illusion was not nothing. So I dropped it.
Saw that something was not nothing so I dropped it.... it bounced back up.
When nothing makes sense, I'll have nothing to drop.
Leaves me empty handed.
Love, Wim
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