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Wim Borsboom wrote:
> Dear everybody,
> Lobster and myself have a bit of an email history,
> Do not get shocked unduly... by our exchange.
I must apologise but I truly have no conscious memory of this.
> Dear Lobster Talk,
>
> You still alive..., not gotten lost or perished yet?
Still alive. Partly lost, partly found, partly perished.
> Good to hear from you again.
Your postings on K are helpful and wholesome. I hope that continues.
>
> Can we finally communicate, at least try?
Do you mean can I speak in a way that is acceptable to you?
Or do you expect me to modify my non-communcation to a mode that accords
with
your preference? Or perhaps communication is already in progress . . .
There is no need to try. I am happy to find a mode of communication that
works
- for who or what - ahhh . . .
> Looks like you still don't wish to communicate, you still wish to reflect,
> deflect, deform and warp?
One way of looking at my lack of skill certainly. You might also realise
that
we all see what we wish. That people let in what they are able to and
what may
appear a deformation and warp may indeed be so, it may also be that the
process of straightening existing deformations and warps is not always
seen
for what it is . . .
Just as people who write in an open and gentle mode or appear very
spiritual
are in fact (pardon the term) snakes (I am not referring to you as your
energy
seems open and balanced at the moment). Similalry individuals who in
outer
form seem bitter and twisted may indeed be the medicine required . . .
You see my friend - I agree that my communication is based on
reflection,
deflection, deformation and warping. It also has other intentions that
are
closer to your own easily construed motivations. Now if your intents are
wholesome I am praising you (and myself also) but let us see how you
straighten out my 'warping' . . .
> You would not have quoted Ku-shan if you would have understood Ku-shan
> Neither would I have... but then I do not understand Ku-shan
> You would not have responded if you would have understood me
> Neither would I have... but then I don't understand me-self
Well my friend,
It may be that I do not understand. And it may be that saying you 'do
not
understand' is a way of saying you *do* understand the teachings of
Taoism.
You understand well enough.
>
> >Ku-shan:
> >"Sayings do not correspond to potential.
> >Words do not set forth actualities.
> >Those who accept words perish.
> >Those who linger over sayings get lost.
> >When you have caught the fish, you forget the trap.
> >When you have gotten the meaning of the words, you forget the words.
> >We use a net to catch fish; the fish are not the net."
> >-- Ku-shan
>
> We will both get lost and perish, I suppose...
> Seems that I don't want to understand this...would be the end of writing,
> email, the whole shebang, internet, the web :->
Perhaps.
Fishing continues.
> With love ;-)(-: and good humour :-)
> Wim
Seriously Lobster
Be Well
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