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Recieved: 1999/09/29 16:07
Subject: Re: [K-list] K: Agony and Ecstasy
From: Smilingjaguar

On 1999/09/29 16:07, Smilingjaguar posted thus to the K-list:

In a message dated 9/29/99 5:18:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
bose_45ATnospamhotmail.com writes:

> > My own feeling is that given that we know that many great saints
> >and
> >mystics of the past had to suffer through hellish k experiences, how can
> >one
> >assume that a blissful k experience (so far) confirms that the
experiencer
> >has done more work or is in any other way superior to someone who is going
> >thru a hellish k experience? Tremendous suffering permeates the
> >lives of great spiritual figures of the past.
> >
>
> Please don't glorify suffering.
>
> Love,
>
> Raja
  
I don't glorify suffering, but I don't think that anyone is ever finished
with their homework, that someone can get everything out of the way of K. It
seems rather arrogant in tone to surmise that since you have had nothing but
bliss that some how you are more evolved or closer to being finished, or that
because you have a rough ride with K that you are somehow less
complete...which seems to be the feeling I'm getting off this thread. I was
awakened at birth, but shut it down in my early teens. It re-exploded with a
vengeance about a year ago. My theory tends to be that those who were having
the hardest times were those who were previously awakened and shut down. The
first awakening always seems gentle...it is when you fight and repress her
that K comes after you violently...but then again, for me K has always been
sort of side-entreeism to other pursuits....so YMMV.

It is a very valid experience to have suffered as a result of K
awakening...please don't judge people by their individual experiences...what
you need is always what you get.

Kimberly

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