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Recieved: 1999/09/28 07:02
Subject: Re: [K-list] Cobra/vision question
From: Ville Vainio


On 1999/09/28 07:02, Ville Vainio posted thus to the K-list:

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Jay Wang wrote:

> I had my K risen, also experienced strong sway of my spine and heard
> crackling sound of it. This is the part that I think is universal. BUT I
> have never seen anything like a snake or serpent of any sort during any time
> of my rising K. IMO, serpent or cobra is a cultural symbol not universal.

K creates feelings that are similar to movements of serpents (sine -
curves and helixes). I haven't had K-visions of serpents either, but
people of ancient cultures who probably didn't deal with sine-curves and
helixes (helix=snake coiled to rest) that much are more ready to associate
their feelings with serpents. In a dream one could possibly experience
these snakey feelings, and being in a state of strong associative activity
that dreams are, will see serpents doing various things. I had a vision of
serpent swimming in water in one of my pre-K psychedelic experiences,
which is quite natural... since psychedelic state is characterized by
loose association.

> have said. But that's the pitfall here. If you reinforce your vision
> with any feedback, be it religious or emotions, you are likely to step
> into the world of entities and very hard to come back to the human
> world with your loved ones. Even worse, you might be steping into the
> world of mentally ill too.

Yes, definitely. I would recommend studying Zen to anyone who is having
problems like this with K. Zen is a "safe" and scientific way to handle
what you have, instead of turning to esoteric and somewhat suspicious
"gurus".

> I know this is not a very encouraging post, but I've been there and done

If one wanted encouragement, one would go to a local new age shop and buy
a book about harmonizing one's chakras according to the phase of starts.
Warnings are stuff that must be got from lists like this. And they are
undoubtedly more important...

Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
 We're all puppets
 The first step on the path to understanding is seeing the strings

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