To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/09/21 09:18
Subject: Re: [K-list] seemingly stupid questions about K
From: lalanjee mishra

Hi,

I am Lalan from India. Having read this discussion on EGO I want to write a
couple of facts :
- Ego is conciousness and we all are born with this.
- The term "dropping or destroying the ego" is a misnomer in the
Eastern philosophy and in my own opinion too.
- The Eastern philosophy says that let this ego of yourself merge with
the Supreme_Ego i.e., the Supreme Conciousness to become one with that.
It is like letting a drop of water to merge with the ocean. Once that
happens, the individual drop has no identity of its own. It becomes the
ocean as it is inseparable from the ocean.
- The supreme happiness of the life lies in the fusion of the self-ego
with the supreme ego. When that happens, in the Eastern
   philosophy, we say that the "Swaroop Shakshatkar" has happened. That
is the self has understood the true meaning of the self.

So, its all fusion. Its the union with the Supreme power there is no
dropping or killing of ego.

Feel free to write back.

Lalan

>From: PokimontazATnospamaol.com
>Reply-To: PokimontazATnospamaol.com
>To: martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk, KundaliniATnospamlist-server.net
>Subject: Re: [K-list] seemingly stupid questions about K
>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:47:02 EDT
>
><< I agree. I think this destroying of the ego business is just an Eastern
> hang-up. Surely, the point is not to destroy it, but to integrate it,
> isn't it? >>
>
>I agree with the integration method of things. I mean think about this for
>a
>bit...Ego is not some massive external manifestation in humans. We are to
>some extent born with it (culture and up-bringing shape it). If we are
>born
>with it then we must have it for a reason. Destroying Ego kinda reminds me
>of what doctors used to do to the Tyroid Gland. The thyroid when u get
>sick
>as a kid gets larger and can be seen using X-ray like techniques. doctors
>used to think "oh god it's big...better get rid of it." Well come to find
>out many years later we actually NEED that little piece and it swells as a
>defense mechanism. Completely destroying it has as bad implications of
>having it too big. The whole principle is not allowing your selfish ego to
>control your life.
>
><<I'm interested in hearing other people's answer to this one. What the
>heck is enlightenment anyway? As far as I can understand it, we're all
>enlightened already but most people don't know it! To me, enlightenment
>seems to consist of simply being yourself and being relaxed about it.
>Big deal. But if that's so, why does self-consciousness seem such a
>barrier to it when that is part of who we are too?>>
>
>I think maybe selfconsciousness is a human hang-up. enlightenment is
>seeing
>things for how they are and accepting them? Self-conscious is so
>superficial i think. Hard to explain that one sorry...but why does it take
>people so long to become "comfortable" with themselves. I think there is
>more to it than that
>
>
>LyN

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