To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/09/20 08:55
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: A Bizarre Entity Story
From: Ville Vainio
On 1999/09/20 08:55, Ville Vainio posted thus to the K-list:
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 GCWein1111ATnospamaol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/17/99 9:59:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi writes:
>
> <<
> I think your friend might benefit from taking antipsychotic drugs. I'm not
> sure if they would dispel the hallucinations, but they might reduce his
> suffering. Clinical psychiatry sees that schizophrenics become indifferent
> the priest "helps" for a while. I thought excorcism is illegal, at least
> in an american tv series it was.
> >>
> ))))))))))))) Well..... l can only repeat that l am convinced that my friend
> is not psychotic. How can you be so certain that he's hallucinating, given
> that you've never met him? My feeling all along has been that he may be
People can behave completely rationally, and still have hallucinations. I
think the obvious somatic sensations (tinglling/paresthesia/...) brought
forth through K can be barely regarded as non-hallucinations, but
interpreting them as entities is IMO hallucinatory, especially if it seems
obvious that it's indeed entities. I, for one, can honestly say that I
experience hallucinations sometimes (K-kind of hallucinations... energy
flow, humming sound, electricity discharges) but still think I'm not
quite insane.
> mistaken about it being entities---perhaps it's energy movement he's feeling
> instead and he's been misled into believing it's entities. He has said this
> himself in moments of doubt. But being mistaken is different from being
Well, that's good news. I think energy movements must be much easier to
handle.
> psychotic or hallucinating. Of course it's much easier to write it off to
> psychosis if the entity phenomenon doesn't fit into one's personal belief
> system. lt would be easier for me in a sense because l've never experienced
> entities and certainly have no wish for them to exist. But that would be
> dishonest because l believe in this man's sanity and credibility. As far as
Whatever. I was just trying to help, not push forth any personal opinions.
That is why I replied you privately, instead of list (even though you
replied in public, which I assume was a kind of accident). I just wanted
to point out that such option does exist, and it's better than killing
oneself or doing excorcism, IMHO. I was not labeling anyone as insane, I
just thought it would ease his anxiety/fear/suffering and possibly even
reduce the hallucinatory sensations.
Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
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