To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/09/18 09:23
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: A Bizarre Entity Story
From: Gcwein1111
On 1999/09/18 09:23, Gcwein1111 posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 9/17/99 8:50:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Druout writes:
<<
I think Ville was simply saying that anti- psychotic drugs might help your
friend ease his terror. Ville seems to have found some pharmaceuticals
helpful to even out his K experiences. Perhaps they would help get your
friend through this crisis. I'd certainly try TG's method first,
though--can't see how it would hurt.
That said... his descriptions of the energy wriggling around is not
inconsistent with the K energy I feel. The experience and sensation is hard
for the brain to account for, so, in my opinion, it makes metaphors out of
it. Just as I was terrified of turning into a skeleton, when I realised it
was simply a metaphor for the ego dying, it turned to joy. Perhaps your
friend needs to "confront" his demons and welcome them into the lightness of
his being. It is his fear that is causing the problem--not the entities.
Remember the rule of Surrender!
Please don't worry for yourself, Jerry. I feel these entities are simply
playful. They don't recognize fear since all is Love. >>
DEAR HILLARY, VILLE AND LIST,
Let me first apologize to Ville for my ungracious response to his
comments which l'm sure were intended to be helpful.
l'd also like to thank all of you who have
responded to my post. l will respond personally to as many as l can, but
because of the number of posts l doubt if l will be able to do so with each
one. ln answer to some of the comments, as you can imagine, Richard has been
on the verge of leaving this priest many times--each time he sees him he
states that it's probably the last, and l do think he'll stop soon. The
priest has given him many things to do on his own, such as filling himself
with white light and envisioning a diamond shell around him for protection.
Richard has done these things, but l'm not sure if he still is. l know he
does pray constantly, invoking the help of St. Michael and angels, etc.
Hillary, your statement about k energy movements being mistaken for
entities (my paraphrase) echos what some others have suggested and it
represents what l have hoped is actually going on. Richard had powerful,
disruptive energy movements for a long time before seeing the priest, and
one has to wonder if a fixation on entities didn't come about as a result of
his exposure to the priest and his reading of the book l mentioned. l think
this is what l took comfort in believing till the other day, and it's what l
would still like to believe. Certainly from what l've experienced with k l do
believe that it can mimic almost anything in the body--almost any kind of
disease or sensation--and perhaps entities also, in the way it moves.
As l said,
Richard has expressed doubt at times in the past as to whether he has
entities, but as time has gone on he seems to have become more certain--and l
have too much respect for him to ignore his judgment. lt's impossible to
convey a full life-like impression of him, just as it is impossible for us to
really get inside another person's process. You mention fear, and l know
this has inevitably been a factor. But during the time l've known him l've
been amazed at his sober judgment and equanimity in enduring a process that
often appears unendurable to me. l've heard him often laugh at the absurdity
of fending off the entities with holy water.
l think the effect of the holy water is what may have
really convinced him that he is dealing with entities. After all, whereas
entities would understandably react to it, why would k energy immediately run
away from it? Of course, his mental state could influence this phenomenon
also, but it appeared to begin inadvertently. He initially just put some on
without expecting anything to happen, then called me immediately afterward,
clearly shocked at its effect on his energy. None of this is conclusive of
anything, but it's enough to give me the creeps! You refer to these entities
as being playful, but they don't sound like the kind of playmates l'm looking
for! (haha) Thank you for your
expression of assurance about my own welfare. You know, when l started
writing that post l thought l was just acting for Richard--by the time l
finished l could see l was also looking for help for myself. Because l could
see l was traumatized in starting to believe for the first time that he
really was being invaded by hordes of entities. My own k process, as l've
described before, has been more than difficult for a long time, and l've
been in a weakened state from fighting an infection for nearly 2 months now.
l haven't experienced the divine in my process yet--although l remain
hopeful--but so far have had primarily physical problems and an inability to
do any form of meditation or focusing (anything but simple prayer) for nearly
7 yrs. So unlike many on the list l have thus far been
more weakened than empowered by my k process. Then to have the only k active
friend l have--someone l talk to every day--become enmeshed in an entity
nightmare is a bit too much. Seeing my own state of vulnerability, l've
become fearful of a transfer of his entities (if they exist) to me upon my
being in close physical contact with him. (Richard says the entities don't
transfer to another person, but l don't think that's true.) At the same time
l don't want to abandon him as a friend in need, so l'm considering setting
some boundaries until l fully rein in my fear (however unrealistic it may
be). Yeah, l know, fear is the worst thing! But knowing that doesn't make it
just go away (LOL!) l can usually deal with it pretty well, so l think
it'll be OK. But l am concerned about the negative effect on my outlook on my
own process from being so involved in his process as it is now.
So...sorry if this sounds gloomy, fearful,
unenlightened...The main thing that has gotten me thru 7 yrs of k hell is a
sense of humor ... and, as usual, this depressing subject is making me
laugh...something tells me entities don't like that very much. Any further
comments are sincerely appreciated, as are those that have been made thus
far.
jerry
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