To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/09/15 20:36
Subject: [K-list] Re: kundalini-digest V1 #351
From: mikol Furneaux
On 1999/09/15 20:36, mikol Furneaux posted thus to the K-list:
> On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Alex wrote:
>
> > Has anyone experimented with MDMA and an active K?. My MDMA
> > experiments were before my K was active, so I was wondering if anyone
> > had any experiences with an active K. I was pondering the idea of
> > experimenting again, "just to see what would happen," but depleting my
> > serotonin banks is not something I'm looking forward too =).
>
> I think you shouldn't do it. Depleting the serotonin banks is not the main
> problem, but I believe MDMA can trigger some degree of panic disorder in
> otherwise healthy individuals (I have seen this happen). I believe the
> effect could be devastating for many k-active individuals also. MDMA is a
> dirty, still quite unknown substance. Just say no.
>
> (I have no personal experience, replied anyway).
Hi, I've had very active K energy for a few years, there isn't a day that
goes by without Something happening.
I've tried various drugs at various times to experiment, both before and
after my k energy was activated
what I found was that where my mind was focused, is what I'd get out of it
if I was focused on philosophical things, then that would be made extreme by
MDMA
where I was focused on spiritual states, I was able to attain amazing states
of awareness
I believe that these states were real, however they didn't last and had no
permanent effect on me nor had any transforming effects
in my meditations I've experienced similar states and similar effects, and
they have transformed my Permanent awareness, and has had a long term effect
on me, as well as purification.
>From my experience I reckon that you can have amazing spiritual experiences,
if you have that focus, but they are useless as they have no permanent
effect, other then memory
the most interesting one I found was that in meditation, I've experienced an
amazing state of absolute nothingness, where my mind was clear and my
emotions in a quiet powerful state of ecstasy, very very similar to the
experience of heroin, but more real, if that makes sense, and it would stay
with me all day, a sense of it, and without the "escapeness" of heroin.
So I have always thought that is what all these junkies out there are
wanting sobadly, is to have that state which is so easy in meditation, but
couldn't find it .
I don't promote the use of drugs, but it is a very interesting part of our
culture that I think deserves more respect then what is given
I hope this has been helpful, I'd say many others would have had different
experience then me, but mine may prove helpful
thank you Blake
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