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Recieved: 1999/09/14 22:05
Subject: Re: [K-list] Drugs vs. Breath??
From: Roger Bose

On 1999/09/14 22:05, Roger Bose posted thus to the K-list:

>From: MrsToastATnospamaol.com
>Reply-To: MrsToastATnospamaol.com
>To: KundaliniATnospamlist-server.net
>Subject: Re: [K-list] Drugs vs. Breath??
>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:38:24 EDT
>
>In a message dated 9/14/99 11:11:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>dudeATnospamdeepwell.com writes:
>
><< You can sit there all day trying various breathing exercises, and
>meditating until your belly-button drops off, and you will not enter into a
>psychedelic state.The only way to experience a deep life-changing
>psychedelic
>event, is to ingest a psychedelic substance. >>
>
>psychedelic, adj. 1. of or causing extreme changes in the conscious mind,
>as
>in hallucinations, 2. of or associated with psychedelic drugs.
>Webster's New World Dictionary
>
>Dude,
>
>I'm here to tell you, as someone who has experienced psychedelic
>experiences
>with AND without psychedelic drugs, you are not speaking for everyone.
>Conscious breathing, breath control, and even unconscious breathing changes
>(i.e., as in an anxiety attack) can and will act as an agent "causing
>extreme
>changes in the conscious mind."

I lived in an alternative healing center for 3 years. I've done breath
work and it does work to an extent, I released some material with it. I've
also had extensive bodywork, hypnosis, and amane sessions. But the one I
always come back to are the enthogens, or rather, I use these as complemtary
tools in addition to other healing modalities. I like to weave it all
together. Not excluding one or the other.

>
>Conscious breath control vary rarely leads to vomiting, ER visits, or
>permanent psychoses as often as psychedelic drugs.

Yes, they can do this, it's strong medicine, in an infantile society.

Alas, conscious breath
>control doesn't seem to enjoy the reputation for absurd hilarity either.
>:)
>
>Party on!
>Melissa

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