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Subject: [K-list] Fwd: BOUNCE from [Edward Hounsell <HISERHATnospamsmtp.ntrust.
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 1999/09/14 07:14, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
>From: owner-kundaliniATnospamList-Server.net
>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:55:45 +0000
>From: Edward Hounsell <HISERHATnospamsmtp.ntrust.org.uk>
>To: PokimontazATnospamaol.com, kundaliniATnospamlist-server.net
>Subject: Re: [K-list] Was mind altering substances: My Xplanation
>Hi,
>
>I have been experimenting with mind alterers for 8 years, I am 22 so I
>started quite young and let's say that I have had a lot of experience with
>all mind-altering chemicals (organic and not-so). I have not awakened
>kundalini in my conscious state (beta). I started reading about kundalini
>about a year ago and I would say that the experiences you people have
>seems very similar to the XTC effect. When pilled up the spine seems to
>be a source of great feeling. Energy seem's to rush up the spine
>creating a euphoric feeling that sounds similar to kundalini rising. I would
>have to say though that chemicals such as XTC, Amphet, Dexy's
>(uppers) are chemicals which are cleaner on the mind than hallucigens,
>so practising meditation while on upper seems to be quite possible and
>may even enhance the meditative state. BUT I spent many years in my
>younger days experimenting with phsychotropics (mostly organic).
>These substances play with the head(imagination) much more. I would
>definitely say that unless you are very comfortable and used to tripping
>DO NOT try any form of meditation whilst under the influence. I feel that
>the imagination can be a powerfull thing and NO body should try creating
>an altered state within this altered state i.e meditation (Unless you
>understand your imagination well enough to be able to tell the
>difference). This is just MY opinion, but I have several friends that have
>developed various forms of phychosys due to the use phychotropics. I
>have experienced too many f**ked up brain states while tripping to be
>able to explain them all but slippages in time, very lite telepathy and a
>feeling of being stuck in a time loop are all things that I have experienced
>personally aswell as with groups of people. I find that when a number
>of you are all in the same brain state, but working on a higher or altered
>level seems to open up some kind of linkage. It is as if when a number of
>people in close relation reach a high enough state brought on by
>physchotropics, communication can be very different, facial
>expressions, body movements and silent thoughts seem to be
>recognised and aknowledged more easily. I am no expert and I will not
>claim that telpathy is 100% possible whilst tripping. I have another
>explanation that seems plausable. Maybe because all of you in the group
>are experiencing the same feelings you feel like you are linked somehow
>but maybe it's just the fact that you are working on very very similar
>states of mind that gives a feeling of connectivity. When in Beta people
>can be so so different, when in delta people are all the same (sleep) but
>conciousness is not there. SO when in theta and alpha (which are
>defnitely entered while in an altered state brought on by chemicals)
>maybe people seem to be on a more close level which inturn can create
>a feeling the you are connected telepathically. Think of how when you
>are at a night club full of people on XTC, just think how easy it is to
get on
>with everyone else. You can get on with people you have never met
>before purely because your brains are working on a very similar level, (o
>and the fact that your in a good mood). That's enough of my bubbling.
>Thank's for reading, I would be greatfull for any feedback. Remember I
>am no expert I am just trying to explain theories that my friends and I
>have conjured up.
>
>Be carefull people
>
>Eddie.
>
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