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Recieved: 1999/09/13 10:39
Subject: Re: [K-list] Some musings on mind-altering substances and food
From: mango


On 1999/09/13 10:39, mango posted thus to the K-list:

PokimontazATnospamaol.com wrote:

> <<<This is very interesting. What about other drugs, people? Hallucinogens,
> opiates, alcohol, stimulants? Here are some of my own experiences:
>
> I have tried GHB (gamma-hydroxy butyrate, "liquid ecstasy") once during K.
> I felt that the k was flowing absolutely freely from my crown outwards,
> and I was extremely euphoric. After that I felt lightheaded,
> depersonalized and uncomfortable for a week. Not recommended. Okay, I
> admit I had taken some benzodiazepines prior to taking the GHB, which
> might explain *why* I chose to take the drug.>>>>
>
> Well I have never taken GHB but have experience in what you could call
> "regular" esctasy, as in pill form. First I advise anyone that if they are
> going to try anything of the sort to RESEARCH and then make sure you know
> your dealer source. Many vindictive people will lace the pills with other
> stuff that cases harm and makes the intended feelings not so pleasent.
> Spoken from experience which I will save you the aweful details unless
> otherwise asked. The only differnce is that I had no depersonalization or
> uncomfortable feelings. The only uncomfotable feeling was not being able to
> tell people what I had explored and learned the ngihts before. It is not
> sloppy like alcohol (i.e the lack of higher cognition) if anything it made it
> easier. One major difference that I noticed is that some people in the group
> reacted more strongly to the same amount as I did. I seemed to be able to
> control it more and work WITH it rather than it working me for the night.
> Ifind cigarettes just gross anyway I look at them. If I wanted a chimney Id
> move to Michigan where it snows...I dont want to become a human one. =)
>
> <<<>>>>>
>
> Bulky meals tend to drain me also. Part of that feeling I know is because
> all the energy in your body then has to turn to digestion rather than other
> things (which is why you dont eat a huge meal before running) but still i
> just chose to stay away from them. Chacolate makes me physically sick...so
> does fudge and anything else with large amounts of sugar, except usually
> fructose and other such fruit sugars. Since K awakening I have noticed that
> if i eat that stuff my heart races, I get really dizzy and kinda spacy and I
> usually pass out. Got a craving once for fudge...ate too much and crashed on
> the couch for four hours.
>
> <<<<The best grounding method there is is Valium. Can't buy that from your
> local shop, though.>>>>
>
> <A HREF="http://www.harmreduction.net/dancesafe/slideshow/intro.html">This
> is your brain on ecstasy</A> Here's a link for the effects of XTC on the
> brain and how it does what it does. And you don't ahve to be a microbiology
> major with pharmaceutical minor to understand it :) Although it helps.
>
> LyN

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