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Recieved: 1999/09/12 14:09
Subject: Re: [K-list] Shakti Definition
From: Maureen Heffernan
On 1999/09/12 14:09, Maureen Heffernan posted thus to the K-list:
Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> I would describe Shakti as the Creative energy.. where we all
come
> from.
> Sex! Wisdom of nature.. Shiva is the destroyer, where we go to.. sex and
> death,
~~*+M~*
Hey there,
Thanks for the response,now I will share some of my time. I got the
creative energy aspect of Shakti but I thought Shiva to be more a
destroyer of illusion or in the death aspect ,,,to destroy to rebuild on
the better physical,and on spiraling octaves of other planes,,, lifting
matter up,,,transforming it out of its coarser properties etc.
> they meet in the heart and dance a rhumba thru my body. 1-2 cha
> cha
> cha.. my heartbeat feels sexual.
~~*+M~*
I quess maybe that's a difference because I don't experience the
fiery,balsting heat I read of,mine is more gentle. My heart doesn't cha
cha, it more or less glows,radiates,like ET.
> Maureen, can you feel your heart beat in your toenails and
fingertips
> and the ends of your hair, or anyplace in your body anytime simply by
> lightly focusing? Can you feel it going out from you like a ripple of
> compassion if you fall into it, entraining everything it's path with it's
> own steady pulsing, till you expand to become the beat of All that Is?
~~*+M~*
Yeah, I can do the heartbeat thing but when I expand and radiate, it's
more of a hum.
> Can
> you reach out with your mind and enfold someone into your heartbeat,
> to
> heal them?
~~*+M~*
Sure.
> That is the feeling of the fully opened heart, the Grail, as
best I can
> sketch it with words.
~~*+M~*
I understand this feeling but another difference is that for me, this
is only one aspect of the Grail. To try to sketch in words,,,,,that
which is in the Cup, changes and alters the physicality of the Cup,or
that which holds, or, the heart. And because the mind,the body, the
emotions and the soul, the breath....all is altered, there is a
refining,a speeding up of matter, a radiating, , , ,a glowing and that
matter, now altered ,atttracts Spirit beacause it can hold more.
> Shiva
> and
> Shakti unite in the crown, then they come down into the body, into the
> heart to boink their brains out eternally in every cell of your body
> doing
> the wild thing in rhythm with the whole universe..
~~*+M~*
If you say so. Can't say I have ever thought of it this way.
> .It is different in
> that sexual pleasure body-bliss sensations spill over into a sensual
> world
> where everything I touch makes love to me in that same rhythm, with an
> intoxicating bliss that my body responds to as sexual...
~~*+M~*
For me this is a state of mind, or awareness or constant hum that my
body does not respond to sexually.
> choosing to physicalize it by making love to a
> person is an option of sharing... not a requirement, or a strong drive..
> but still fun.
~~*+M~*
Of course.
> I'm not challenging you...
~~*+M~*
My dear lady, I didn't feel that at all.
> I think you are wonderful and wise."
~~*+M~*
Flattery will get you everywhere,HA!
> I am trying
> to discover if our bliss is the same. I don't think it is..yet. :
~~*+M~*
I tend to agree.
> Your Mother Goddess
> vibe
> is delicious, and ferocious in it's own way... Dianic.
~~*+M~*
So is my Father God vibe. My Kabbalistic master number is eleven,,dual
Father.
> That is why one of
> my slaves has a crush on you..hee hee..
~~*+M~*
Okaaaayyy. Tell your friend, again,, I am flattered.
> The grail is not subtle. It is something that would make you
think you
> are about to have a massive coronary or something if you dunno what it
> is.
~~*+M~*
The Grail, for me , is not just in the heart. It is my whole body and
more importantly, my soul. My soul drinks from the Cup. Introibo et
altare Dei. I will go up to the Altar of G*D,,the joy of my youth. From
my younger soul understandings, to my present ones and to my future
Oneness,which is now and was at my beginning. Love/Wisdom/Power.
Love of an overflowing heart,(yes coronary time), Wisdom of Holy
Mysteries,(beyond words) and Power,(I remain silent).
> heart beats in your throat after hard running, except
> it's
> all thru the body, and loudest when at rest, tingly waves of pleasure
> like
> an ongoing gentle full body orgasm.. That's what makes remaining in a
> body
> worthwhile, when you have known Heaven.
~~*+M~*
My joy is less physical and in other realms,I quess. But I thank you
for your time because it now is getting a little clearer for me. My
heavenly experiences are far beyond physical reactions. I am Taurus and
very physical and sensuous but in those realms,that seems to be put on a
lower priority.
> I did some healing on my Mom last week, and when the grail was
> hammering
> out thru the Tummo fire, I took her hand and put it on my solar plexus,
> right under the triangle where my ribs meet, and she was astonished to
> feel the movement of it under her hand like a baby alien kicking it's way
> out in steady rhythm. Not subtle.
~~*+M~*
I never thought of that as anything special,really. I just thought my
heartbeat showed there. I remember swimming as a kid and in a bathing
suit and lying down to rest. It's just always been there.Even when lying
down to rest, it's just there. I thought it was nothing.I'd like to read
more on it.
> The "Divine beloved" is a lover
> that
> is All that is, and when Shiva takes you for his bride, the honeymoon in
> the heart-shaped bed, never stops.. That is the form the unity takes, in
> the body.
~~*+M~*
Well, I quess my honeymoon has gone into a comfortable slipper aspect
because it is so in other realms and aspects than just the body. But,
now I understand you.(Magor accomplishment ,huh?)
> Nuns are brides of Christ.
~~*+M~*
I see us all as brides of Christ. The males who have opened to their
feminie side are receptive to that Light which is life giving.Is this
not Shiva? The other dried up bitter nuns have not experienced it. This
is not a sexual response though. Far from it. Initially perhaps but not
afterward. Yeah, I enjoy that TV nun ,she has passion for high beauty
which is a typical response to that Christic Light.
> does not come down to their level
> to
> consummate the marriage, and call him Demon when he shows up.. they
> forbid
> themselves the orgasmic bliss of divine unity..
~~*+M~*
I agree, but again this is not on a physical/sexual level. It is SO
other. I have worked with a priest for 4 years now to try to get him to
respond with something other than his crotch when he experiences his
"Mary" visits. I know from his response he is merely being toyed with by
*something* he continues to feed. The bliss I have experienced is
deeper,higher,wider,(all adjectives) than anything sexual.
> Spending too much time OBE kills the body
~~*+M~*
I think so ,yes,but I don't interpet uniting with the Divine as OBE.
For me it is like getting a tune up to a higher vibe of every cell and
the space in between. It is totally enlivening and thrilling. It takes
years of pratice to be able to hold more and more and still be able to
hear the phone ring.And yet another to answer it and be able to speak.
But I'm working on it.
Love and Blessings,
+ Maureen
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