To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/09/09 11:13
Subject: Re: [K-list] Sex or Celibacy
From: Maureen Heffernan
On 1999/09/09 11:13, Maureen Heffernan posted thus to the K-list:
Shy Person wrote:
> Jill: I understand your meaning here, Maureen, I have been trying to
> express this myself, how this change is experienced.
~~*+M~*
Ahhhh. Thank you.
Usually the
> discussion of celibacy on the list revolves around concious celibacy and
> whether or it is a form of repression or a useful spiritual tool.
~~*+M~*
Tis a way of life. And I think the important aspect is initial
attempts at celibacy and the later celibate path. These are very
different. I still remain conscious and aware and choose to repress and
rein in the lower chakras knowing what my *reward* in the upper chakras
will be. As I have written before, " I am celibate, not dead !". I have
experienced relating to men on a whole different level. I wrote before
that complete strangers seem to *know*. They want to stay around me and
absorb *something*, I apparently am sending out. All on a very high soul
to soul level while we carry on the mundane conversation of boarding
little Fluff Doodles and what she likes to eat ,etc. etc. (I operate a
kennel and groom). Oh, this brings to mind someone, (Chris?) saying a
women couldn't complete orgasm , well, here's a strange one. This
happened a couple times after about 5-6 years of celibacy, (I don't
recall after a decade,sheesh I should celebrate that??Have a party every
year? HA HA ! )Anyway, believe this or not, standing fully clothed,
standing about 10 feet apart from a very advanced person, just looking,
I experienced full orgasm. This happened at different times. I thought I
was crazy. Talk about maintaining full control!!!!!
The onset brought the k energy through the
> crown on the second day, and following that time there was, for about 2
> years, almost no sexual energy and in fact, a sort of aversion to the idea
> of sex.
~~*+M~*
I remember that initial aversion. I don't experience it now. I still
will get intense desires but I enjoy the trade off.This trade off wasn't
from guilt,repression, or a conscious decision. It just happened one day
that the sex center started going, oooo la la big time and at the same
time between my eyes, inside my head I felt flutterings. Felt weird but
nice. I played mentally at increasing the 3rd eye sensations and they
did. They went to deeper inside the head and went to a strong humming
and stronger flutterings. Don't know another word that describes this as
well. Like if you were to roll an *R* in pronunciation. RRRRRRRRRR. I
receive these flutterings all though out the day and I would say this
last year the crown has been the most active of any. (I still thank
Grandma Devi for that wonderful experience over the net. ) I had been
working hard and must have been in the right place at the right time.
She and others and other happenings have shown me incredible crown
experiences.
> What remains, after years of steady k, is that sense you describe, of
> reduction in activity in lower centers, and the energy wanting to be in the
> higher centers, keeping things spinning blissfully out the crown.
~~*+M~*
I keep reading out the crown. For me, I know I go out and above the
head but it is like in a spheroid egg shape that circles the whole
body,up,down and front,back with any excess energy I have being returned
to Mother Earth through my hands held downward.But my whole point is
that I think Spirit changes matter. It refines it. It makes it able to
withstand and cooperate with a *different*,*higher*,?, *stronger*
vibration. For me, when I do a microcosmic orbit, now it is entirely
different then 10 years ago. Matter changes in its ability to function
with higher vibrations.
>
> I have not yet, despite much ongoing thought and reading on this subject,
> been able to figure out whether concious control should enter into my
> experience, in the interest of accelerated spiritual growth. I tend to
> think not. I have read Gandhi and many other views, though, and have yet to
> get a clear idea of what is best for my situation, being inclined to simply
> follow the leader, K being the leader these 7 years.
>
> Jill
~~*+M~*
To rein in or not. That is the question. I have always felt like odd
woman out and am now playing with psychic phenomena. I know it's just
games and I should keep my eye on the Prize but ,,,it's fun! I got the
Reiki III and my hands would not stop with the heat. I saw a guy light
newspapers with his hands away from them. I'm working on that. Last
November at a Confirmation in which I assisted my Bishop, another person
and myself began levitating. I am still working on that but have
discovered that if I really *work* at it, it fails. If I dance in the
higher centers with Shiva or in my western vernacular enter centering
prayer and contemplation, then it begins as a grace. And the more I stay
focussed on dissolving into the Sacred Heart the better it becomes.The
3rd eye activates in understanding Holy Mysteries that are beyond words.
Time stops.That's where my heart truly lies..... Time travel. Inter
dimensional travel. Mind reading. Side games. Could I experience these
things that I have attained while enjoying sex with a wonderful partner?
Yeah, but I know truthfully it could only happen once or twice a year.
And what was that letter about *training some woman*(that made me laugh)
Yeah, I'd have to *train* some guy for twice a year. Hee hee.
Fat chance. And honestly, no big loss.
Thanks for the response and I want to get over to the Winter sites and
explore my interest of Spirit altering the matter and cells in my body
and centers.I know that it does. Spiritual Light,right at the threshold
of becoming manifest,is orgasmic. And because the matter has been
refined and altered it participates in that spiritual ecstasy in a
fashion that it could never do before. There! I finally found the words.
Happy Flutterings and
Blessings to all,
+ Maureen
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