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Recieved: 1999/09/09 10:53
Subject: [K-list] Ring of Truth
From: Jon-Carl Lewis
On 1999/09/09 10:53, Jon-Carl Lewis posted thus to the K-list:
I have been noticing that in the discussion of sex vs celibacy that some folks, like you, Jill, are speaking from a point from within a process which has produced a result that others are advocating as a beginning point.
The interesting thing for me in watching this discussion is that the folks who seemed to focus on the energy and the experience and finding their own appropriate process seem also to be more balanced, joyful, kindler and. . . better teachers. I am finding it easy to discern which postings and reflections seem most "true" and which seem to be derivative.
I am actually going through a period of lessened sexual drive, however, my "aesthetic lust" is out of control. I see beauty everywhere and it brings me to tears, and I've found the only way to handle it is expressions of gratitude and thanks for the showers of beauty and pleasure which I don't have to *work* and *struggle* and *strive* for.
And, yet, I feel I should be working and striving, even though I know that shuts down the flow and actually restricts my life.
But it is wonderful to have this chorus of voices, much like the different colors of flower in a field. some more interesting than others. Some downright ugly. But beautiful as a field as a whole.
But I find it funny, that now, after my sexual desires have quieted some, that so many guys are winking my way and coming on to me. Women too. I almost want to capitalize on it now just to make up for the angst of my youth. <gr>
But I do find that I am most grateful at this point for the prophets on this list who speak from their own experience. I have gained much from listening to the recitation of your stories -- things I thought I was only going to learn from reference books and scholarly discussions.
I am finding that, for me, your lives are the books I am studying now, and I express gratitude to all of you who are telling your truth -- you are collectively the best guru I could have hoped for!
Yours,
Jon-Carl Lewis
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On 9/9/1999 at 12:31 PM Shy Person wrote:
>I have not yet, despite much ongoing thought and reading on this subject,
>been able to figure out whether concious control should enter into my
>experience, in the interest of accelerated spiritual growth. I tend to
>think not. I have read Gandhi and many other views, though, and have yet to
>get a clear idea of what is best for my situation, being inclined to simply
>follow the leader, K being the leader these 7 years.
>
>Jill
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