To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/09/09 04:37
Subject: Re: [K-list] Orgasm, orgasm, all night long
From: Ville Vainio
On 1999/09/09 04:37, Ville Vainio posted thus to the K-list:
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Katt wrote:
> Vill wrote:
> Meditation
> is dead easy and loads of fun, while riding the wave of orgasm seems
> difficult and not as fun, IMHO
> I must say that I cannot agree with you. I find that most meditation
> systems are boring and unworkable for me. As for riding the wave of
Seems that to each his own. Perhaps you just tried the wrong meditation
systems. Personally to me it seems that abandoning all the postures and
other unpleasant stuff and just falling into trance & enjoying it is great
fun.
> orgasm not being fun...are you sure you have had sex? This coupled with
I have not rode the wave of orgasm, no. It just seems to be contrary to
the natural urge to plunge through and ejaculate when the orgasm starts
to come ("the point of no return"), and as such seemed somewhat unnatural.
> the previous post about women not being able to have an orgasm when they
> want, and men not being able to give a women an orgasm once they've had
> their own, indicates to me a person who is very unfamilliar with sex and
> sex with women.
1. Women can have orgasm when they want only through masturbation. Men can
have sex and get an orgasm almost always, as it takes less time with them
as with women.
2. I'm aware that men are able to give woman an orgasm after they have
lost their erection. However, it's the decision of the man, not woman.
3. I don't claim to be experienced with sex. Frankly, I don't care.
Therefore, I choose to not engage in the discussion concerning sex only
from now on.
> well as different ecstatic experiences. There is only one Reality,
> however
> And you are sure of this how? How can you be sure that there is only
> one _reality_ and that there are no more?
Intuition. There may be (probably is) other universes with no concepts of
space & time, or different "layout" altogether, but it's still a part of
the Reality. There being more than one reality would be contrary to the
definition of the word "reality". This is just playing with words, anyway.
> Why? Seems rather silly to me to want enlightment only when not busy
> doing important things.
> <<What's the "daily life"? If you are talking about work, trying to find
> a
> way to keep the k OUT of it would seem more beneficial :-).
I don't equate k with enlightenment. And, as you saw, I put a smiley
there. I was trying to be rhetorical, with (oviously) lousy results. The
fact is I hadn't eaten in a long time, and was somewhat uncomfortable.
Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
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