To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/09/09 01:27
Subject: [K-list] Sex or Celibacy
From: Maureen Heffernan
On 1999/09/09 01:27, Maureen Heffernan posted thus to the K-list:
Angelique wrote:
> Precisely.. and to allow the expressions of sexuality, as a
natural side
> effect of the path, and using them to increase the energy flow means
> that
> they will unfold smoothly instead of being repressed by rejection.
> Thru the expression, all manner of other, connected lower chakra
> issues
> such as sexual jealousy and insecurity will also come up to be cleared.
> This makes for an even stronger foundation for higher evolution...
~~*+M~*
And then what? Does one proceed to higher evolution where......
(Chris)=> >the NEED for external sexual gratification with another
diminishes
> with
> >'enlightenment' ...
Angelique= " that seems to be true."
> we find Teachers who are willing
> to
> get their hands dirty, in service to other, like Mother Theresa or
> Gandhi.
~~*+M~*
What I see you both saying and what I have experienced with celibacy
is that the NEED lessens or there is a conscious choice to redirect it
towards the higher centers. As Chris worded it,, A communion of
consciousness. A "living in the crown", which is the outcome once the
life is directed there.There's two different types of letters I am
reading here.One is clearing the lower chakras then opening and living
in the heart,then proceeding towards the crown and the other appears to
be living in and using the sexual centers for a boost of bliss.I don't
think they are the same, as where you mention Mother Theresa and
Ghandi.I read Ghandi. I read that he used to have women lie on either
side of him over night so he could pratice controlling himself.I know
that I praticed and achieved sucess. Someone questioned if the K were
more active after abstinence. In the beginning pratices, definitely so.
But after an extended period of celibacy things change. Celibacy is the
outcome but the K is just as wonderful but seems to take on a different
quality. I don't know how to word it and I have not seen it written
about but for me, Shiva/Shati , Spirit/Matter,,,,,,,Shiva spiritualizes
matter. Matter is altered from its constant contact with Shiva, because
at this point it is not a response from the sex boost, but rather Spirit
is on a low hum all through the matter of the higher chakras. Does it
sound silly to say, they recieve the orgasm. From experiencing years of
3rd eye flutterings and humming and delights in the crown, I don't think
so. Spirit ciculates though all the centers but because the lower
centers have been changed into a finer form,something,,,,(I don't know
how else to word it)they are not overwhelmed or highly activated
anymore. And because the higher centers become accustomed to the Spirit
vibration they can stay in that vibration longer and longer.
I know what I mean just not sure the wording is coming across.
A= "> I agree.. trying to skip over the lower chakra issues in favor of
the
> higher ones tends to result in a "fair weather" spirituality, that folds
> under pressure.
~~*+M~*
I agree also.....but once the lower has been worked out then it is
time to start climbing upward,evolution, yes?
Blessings to all,
+ Maureen
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