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Recieved: 1999/09/08 14:08
Subject: Re: [K-list] Scientific Research
From: Druout
On 1999/09/08 14:08, Druout posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 9/8/99 12:30:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ggonzalezATnospamSiebel.com writes:
<< Does anybody know of any scientific research on the K. experience ?
I mean , something like trying to "measure" somehow the brain waves while it
is happening ?
... has an actual measurement of the effect of K. in the brain ever been
recorded ? >>
Dear Gabriel,
Here's something interesting for you
This is from an article by David O'Reilly titled The Bliss Machine from the
Science Sta. section of the Phil. Inquirer. (c1998). I already sent it to the
list over a year ago--but it's interesting, I think.
In a 2 yr study, researcher Eugene d'Aquili prof. of psychiatry at the
Hospital of the U. of Penn. and Andrew Newberg fellow at the hospital's
nuclear medicine program studied people engaged in Buddhist meditation.
Quoting from the article:
"we can't say we can see God with these imaging studies," Newberg, 31, said
with a laugh recently. "What we can say is: When somebody has religious
experiences, this is what it's doing to them."
...[the researchers] propose that certain religious practices can so
stimulate the body's calm system or its flight system that activity in the
related brain circuit starts to "reverberate,"
...Depending on whether the ritual is fast..or slow... different parts of
the brain are activated, perceived by the mind as a higher state of
consciousness.
In states of very high activity around one circuit, they say, there can be a
"spillover," such that the dormant system activates and goes "on line"
simultaneously with the other.
Although rare, this dual state can lead to a sense of "tremendous release of
energy" that may feel like "oceanic bliss" or absorption into the object of
contempaltion.
And extreme cases of both systems being activated can induce brain activities
perceived by the mind as the "absolute Unity of Being," or AUB.
They even propose that a mystic in the AUB state will experience either a
divine being, such as God, or the cosmic void of nirvana, depending on
whether there has been a predominantly ergotrophic or trophotropic
involvement..."
Also from the article:
"What intrigues d'Aquili and Newberg is how religious rituals and practices
stimulate the two major subsystems of the autonomic systems.
One of these subsystems, the ergotropic system, is the body's fight-or-flight
nervous system. In moments of stress, it raises the heart rate, blood
pressure and respiration, and hastens endocrine to the muscles, among other
activites.
The other system, the trophotropic, can be understood as the system of calm.
It reduces the heart rate, slows respiration, and regulates cell growth,
digestion, relaxation and sleep."
Love, Hillary
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Does anybody know of any scientific research on the K. experience ?
I mean , something like trying to "measure" somehow the brain waves while it
is happening ?
... has an actual measurement of the effect of K. in the brain ever been
recorded ?
Is htere any institution, foundation .... doing some research on this field
?
I recently have an EEG, and tried to "play" with my K. ( It is always
active, and I can take it to the brain whenever I want), but the result was
only a "intermittent background activity". My neurologist said it was within
normal limits.
Has anybody tried to raise it durind an exam ?
I can't believe this "energy" that we feel cannot be measured or recorded by
any instrument !
Thanks for your information,
Gabriel
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