To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/09/02 07:28
Subject: Re: [[K-list] A Twist on Entities] (+technical question)
From: Ville Vainio
On 1999/09/02 07:28, Ville Vainio posted thus to the K-list:
On 1 Sep 1999, Bob Maurer wrote:
> People who have activated certain potentials without
> understanding are in a highly suggestible state.
> Unfortunalty there is never a lack of persons who are
> more than willing to dominate them by providing them
> with superstitious memes and archetypically charged images
> which only reinforce these delusional patterns.
And in some cases they get paid for doing that, too. I wonder where all
these people come from, and what motivates them. I think the teachings of
Zen are a good antidote against these false guidelines.
> Notice how attached people are to their extraordinary
> experiences and talents, how much pride they take in
> reporting them when actually they are saying nothing
> of any real value or insight.
This is what I myself have also pondered... Since these experiences seem
to be little more than "tripping" on meditation instead of psychedlic
drugs, and the talents are basically occultism, which is not (IHMO)
compatible with more evolved religious ideas. Personally, my feelings of
awareness and bliss aren't accompanied by any extraordinary visions. I do
have some visuals when I'm in a trance, but I don't see any special value
in them... it's bit like spiritual kitsch, really.
> There is nothing spooky about mysticism. Kundalini
> without realization is deviated and less than worthy.
But it's still kundalini, and it can/will take another direction later...
One really can't expect everyone to attain any kind of realization during
the initial period...
> The love and pursuit of enhanced consciousness will
> give rise to bliss and understanding without gods
> or demons or attachment to ignoble motivation.
And nobody will care. People want gods, demons, angels and occult
experiences. I wonder what kind of K experience would be suitable
for Hollywood.
Technical question:
I know these posts are archived, but are they reachable by altavista/other
search engines? I really don't like the idea of having to take an
anonymous identity. If they are reachable, it would be nice to be able to
put some text somewhere in the body/header/subject that would prevent
archiving... Maybe I'm paranoid, but I still have to get a job and the
employers in Finland browse the net actively :-).
Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
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