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Recieved: 1999/08/23 18:06
Subject: Re: [K-list] These mainly unmapped lands (Active or not ?)
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 1999/08/23 18:06, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 09:43 AM 8/21/99 , Jacques de Schryver wrote:
>This one is unexpected.
>
>Kundalini is the Indian word, and is connoted with some
>violence and negative side effects. But chinese and japonese
>people, with the Chi notion, come to the same results,
>without the drawbacks.
ROTFLOL!! Jacques, you are so beautiful..:) LOL!
The point of working with the chi, is to cleanse the blockages so the
K-awakens *uneventfully*. If the paths are cleared with chi (prana) then
there is a smooth engine for K. to run with no vibration. There are no
bumps to need untwisting with Kriyas and night sweats. The K. is active
when it's working, when it is needed.. it is needed when there are lots of
blockages. Blockages manifest symptoms. If you have been working with chi,
and deliberately facing your fears as you have been, then there are no
blockages, so presto, no symptoms.
Personally, I enjoy the feel of K. at work so I go out vampiring other
folks blockages by empathy, so it has something to do..
The biggest blockage for most folks is fear of death, and you kicked it's
ass.
The Chinese are maybe smarter.. the K. does what it wants, so there is no
point in writing exercises to direct it. Working with it is not directing
it, it's more like getting out of the way coz it knows best, and
surrendering to being the vessel. Giving consent for it to have it's way
with you. The chi or prana is controllable, and it does most of the work
of clearing the path for K... and you can learn to manipulate it.
The stuff that happens when K. hits the higher chakras is not describable
in words no matter how much poetry and rhapsodizing we create, so there is
no point to trying to write exercises for it.
>So perhaps I am slightly Chi awakened, because :
>
>- I survived many situation when I should have died
>(climbing, drowning).
>- I saw people dying and was not negatively affected (I
>could help when necessary).
>- I never had a nightmare since 1980 though dreaming a lot.
>- Two or three times I had to defend myself and time slowed.
>I went through without becoming wild myself.
>- I can laugh at myself (this one is a good one ! Some
>should say it helps to survive).
>- I have a good breath retention (apnea) which is supposed
>to be a positive element for Chi.
>
>Nevetheless, this is I suppose common to many people.
ROTFLOL!! Nice humility, my friend.. and it is natural for you... these
are the fruits..
>And being a little Chi awakened is not being K-awakened.
Who invented the idea of being chi-awakened? What is that? Chi
awakened?? Wot? Everyone is chi-awakened, it is the life we breathe. If you
are alive, then you are chi awakened.. without chi the body is not animate.
>But as said Louis Pasteur ‘Discovery gives its favor
>preferedly to the prepared mind´.
So what makes you think you have not been favored?
>And this is why, as asked
>Stephanie, I am specifically looking for Kundalini. A
>prepared mind might know what to do with it, even though the
>aims could be modified through the induced knowledge or
>(alleged ? ;-) ) wisdom.
ROTFLOL!! You don't "do with" the K. It does with you, as it pleases..
:) It has been, all along, leading you to follow your bliss, and providing
you with exactly the adventures you needed to pave it's way with flower
petals.
>It is difficult for me to ‘let it go´, and this is what I
>need most.
Leaps of faith get easier, with time.. right now you are focusing on your
limitations.. what you focus on, will grow. Start prospecting for silver
linings in what you are presently judging as your faults, and you will
begin to see the perfection in yourself, in the now.
You are playing a joke on yourself, with "I'll do it when".. you already
have everything you need, and "fake it till ya make it" can be an
expression of faith in Goddess to provide. Write the book that you think an
enlightened person would write.. set it aside for six months and then re
read it as if someone else wrote it... and get to know how wise you really
are.
>Nevertheless, letting it go is just for me as difficult as
>for a round-bellied weight-lifter to go through a narrow
>restriction in a cave. Your mind is not always convinced it
>is really good to do so. Kind of contextual shyness...
It is as difficult as you make it. Some people like the drama and
challenge of making things difficult.. gives a bigger sense of
accomplishment. For you I think looking for K. has become a convenient
excuse for procrastination.. but it has led you here. Perfection.
You do surrender in the end, that is the important thing.
>________
>
><Greta said :
>
>- Sorry to sound this way, but there are, you should know,
>horror stories associated with K awakenings.
>Psychosis...suicides...etc., etc. K awakens itself in people
>who it wants to give itself to.
There are horror stories associated with anything... that's not a
reason not to do it. Certainly not for Jacques. who is willing to risk his
ass on mountaintops and caves..
>Not to sway you. It can be a lovely thing, and for me it's a
>gift, in the beginning it seemed like a horrible curse that
>would never go away.
LOL!! Yes, that's why the list exists.. to we can reassure each other
and hold hands..:)
>Didn't I just do something self-defeating by telling you
>that?
>
>Blessings,
>
>Greta
Mmmmmm.. kind of, I think.. I don't recommend newbies read Gopi
Krishna coz it gives them nightmares.. LOL!! They get expectations of awful
events, and thoughts are creative. Jacques has expectations of what K. will
be like, because of the things he has read.. but everything that is written
about K. is just another version of "The blind men and the elephant", my
own writing, included.
>I just belove horror stories and I wont miss this one.
>Mainly if it is mine. Boys will be boys ;-))))
There is the fountain of youth you are seeking to awaken.. you already
have it. Your childish naive wondering curious mind that seeks to play
eternally. That, and plenty of Chi..:)
Don't worry about memory and intelligence, those effects are simply your
navigation system. The parameters you put on your experience, before you
came in to narrow your possibilities to what is truly your bliss. Everyone
has different talents, it is what makes uniqueness. Do what you love, and
don't worry about doing what is hard for you, unless you enjoy the challenge.
In the largest sense of non-judgment, someone who can write the unified
field theory is not a better person than someone who can play guitar really
well, or build a table... or someone who sits on the sidewalk asking for
spare change.. limitless manifestation needs every kind of people.
>The Dalaï Lama once said it takes about 12 years to awaken
>Kundalini in a voluntary process, thinking mainly to it. So
>it is a way. A Way. And I´ll go through it my own way.
You already did. Life threatening crisis is a common source of
awakening... I thought you understood when you were posting your crisis
story, that it was a kundalini experience..
Limitless manifestation means that everyone's experience of Kundalini is
different. There are quite a few folks who would gladly trade your
symptomless awakening for their CFS or sleepy spells.
>Lol, great destiny, with total honnesty. Gods from various
>parts of the universe should be laughing at this one for
>many centuries. I like the idea.
Laughter is the nature of Spirit. People who are not awakened don't see
things like you do.. no-one who is not awakened could find the idea of
personal shame and suicide being a joke to the Gods, as funny and greet the
prospect of it being their destiny with genuine enthusiasm.
That kind of joyful surrender is the undeniable mark, beyond any "signs
and symptoms". That's what's real.
The saying goes, "They are known by the fruits", and you are very full
and fruity!
Personally, I find the joke of you running after something you've got in
your back pocket already, is even funnier...:)
>I could write a short story on that.
Why don't you? What are you waiting for?
> I prefer to work for
>it than to get it by chance (perhaps because I didn't).
I am sorry to disappoint you by telling you there is not work to be done,
however it is only one of a list of challenges that interest you, so, onto
the next.. :) :)
The nice thing about K., is you don't have to have children to pass it on.
Everybody already has it, in potential.
>To conclude, I notice that none till now wrote back and said
>:
>
>I did it on purpose.
LOL!!! What do you think it is when folks go to a Guru to get
Shaktipat? Knock and the door shall be opened..cosmic promise.. lots of
folks dunno they knocked. Yours is already open, and you stepped thru it
already but you are still looking at the map, that says "12 years". The map
is not the destination. You are too busy looking at the map to realize you
have arrived.
You rebirthed yourself, when you chose to go into the dark and wiggled
thru a womb of mud to gasp for life. Thought-word-deed.. physical ritual.
Sump diving pranayama. Climbing mountains. You manifested your process
externally.
Maureen is learning to see beauty in the dark, see beyond the illusion
of polarities, you know it from spelunking. You know what I mean by that..
the lights that you see deep underground when the flashlights are off.. the
colors in the dark.
You don't have symptoms coz you did not resist the call of the void, you
manifested it in life experiences.
You know it so well that if someone gives you warning of fear you laugh
at a beautiful destiny, embracing the polarities with love on autopilot.
You are so humble that you have no idea how beautiful you are. :)
> And
>then help those who wish to go deeper into the understanding
>of the phenomenon to explore further these mainly unmapped
>lands.
They are mostly unmapped because they are infinite.
Blessings..
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