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Recieved: 1999/08/09 14:40
Subject: [K-list] Indigo Children ... Martin
From: Christopher Wynter


On 1999/08/09 14:40, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list:

We have two little boys in our group in Tasmania, David and anunda ... without
going into the
medical/scientific analysis on them, it would seem that what Drunvalo says is
entirely feasible as
we have observed what he is talking about within them ... and more.

>From the work that I have done with the group and my knowledge of mtDNA and
Nuclear DNA, I feel that
he is, within the use of words and language, pretty close ... but hasn't gone
far enough ...

What we notice with these boys is the reactions of others who come into contact
with them ... many
are terribly afraid ... and others remark on their presence ... but association
with them is
sufficient to trigger changes in people .... I will go into greater detail on
this if the list
wishes ...

These children (two little boys) were born to unmarried mothers who have been in
my group for some
time now. The consciousness of the work that I have been describing to you has
been applied to the
first almost two years of their life. During their pregnancies the mothers
attended group sessions
and since the children were born, they have also been present in group sessions
with their mothers.

The circumstances around their upbringing so far are a little different to the
normal family
situation in that the household is a small community ... in fact it's almost
like tribal situation.

However I do believe that it is possible to apply these same principles in
normal households where a
child, or children are being raised by Mother with or without father's
assistance.

In fact there are other members of the group who have observed the processes
that I have used with
these two little boys and applied them to their own children with very marked
changes in the
children's behavioural and learning patterns. Some of the principles of have
been applied by a
couple of group members who are school teachers in the classroom situation with
similar results.

We started with the concept that these children came as our teachers. We
observed what the children
did and applied the mirror back to ourselves "what are these children trying to
show us, what are
these children trying to mirror to us about our behaviour, thoughts, feelings
and emotions".

We were very conscious not to apply the words "can't", or "shouldn't" to these
children in either
thought or word. One thing has come out of this is that these children (in our
perception) are
growing up without limitations applied to them by any adults. We have also
noticed that neither
David nor anunda (the children's names) seem to have anything to prove either to
themselves or to
us. The explanation that I have for this is that they do not have to find a
behaviour or a set of
rules, which they need to obey or comply with.

They play happily amongst themselves and spend quite a lot of time just sitting,
in absolute
stillness, watching what's going on around them. They have been encouraged to
interact with other
children and fit in quite comfortably with boys and girls quite a few years
older than themselves.

Both little boys were walking by five months. They are both talking. They are
both counting on
their fingers. Various people who have seen them cannot believe that they are
only 20 months and 22
months old.

When, in their explorations of life, they get into a situation where we feel
their actions are
unacceptable, somebody takes the time to explain what or how the action is
unacceptable. The
important process in this is that the child is given absolute total attention.
We find that the
child will look us directly in the eye and always gives some indication that he
has understood what
he is being told.

I must qualify the preceding paragraph by adding that the first question we ask
is "what is the
child trying to tell us, or show us, that we are not getting". Sometimes it has
been sufficient to
ask the child "what are you try to show us" and the child will find some other
way to get the
message through.

It has become very much a case of "hearing the children". Many times we have
found their behaviour
challenging in that their behaviour challenges our concepts of what a child
should or should not be
able to do. Many times, as adults, we find the mirror so very, very strong as
we are reminded of
the way we were brought up as children, and how various things were said or done
to us which had the
effect of "shutting down" the spontaneity of our expression.

We are also finding as the children develop more verbal expression that they are
very "psychic" and
are able to express a knowing of things that they could never have seen or were
never told about.
This raises the question "how much did we know as children that we were forced
to forget because out
parents and teachers could not cope with their own feelings of inadequacy".

Another thing we have found is that the children quite often act out our
unconscious thoughts. For
example, not so long ago, there was a difficulty in getting the children to go
bed on group nights,
and their behaviour would tend to be a little disruptive. I watched the
energies of the room and
ask the group "who wanted to avoid the topic of the night's discussion and
wanted to children to
play as a distraction". One or two of people admitted to those thoughts and
immediately both boys
took their mothers by the hand and led them off to bed. There have been other
times when it has
been very obvious that the children were acting out projections that their
parents (or others) had
been putting out (in silent thought) that this is how the children will behave.

Both little boys were vaccinated. The conscious choice was taken primarily on
the basis of the
possible after effects of contracting specific diseases. We were however
conscious of our own
memories of being vaccinated. When the two boys were taken to the doctor, the
focus was on
explaining to them exactly what was happening (much to the doctor's
astonishment) and yes, there
were a few tears, but no lasting effects. The doctor later commented to us that
a lot of the trauma
was, in his experience, the parents' remembering of their own injections and
passing that onto the
children.

The subject of crying.

Contrary to popular opinion and belief, both boys have been allowed to cry as
much as they wanted
to. Yes, there have been reactions from people in the room to the tears and
noise they were making.
For some, it was the remembering that they were not allowed to cry as children.
For others, it was
the manner in which they were stopped from crying.

There have been a number of times when I have held both boys and allowed them to
give voice to their
feelings. When they have fallen over or hurt themselves, I have noticed that
they will cry for a
few minutes and then the crying will turn into "toning".

It is my observation that many times what we, as adults, perceived of as
"crying" by the child is
actually some innate knowing where the child is applying the power of "tone"
towards healing its own
body.

At other times, we have observed that the children cry when their mothers are
experiencing a whole
lot of grief which they are not giving expression to... It's almost as though
the boys were crying
their mother's tears.

Enough from me at this moment... There are more stories that I could tell you
of our experiences
with David and anunda ... Perhaps some other time, if people are interested.

With Respect

Christopher Wynter
Hobart, Tasmania
wynterATnospambigpond.com

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http://www.anunda.com/notebook/index.html

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