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Recieved: 1999/08/06 09:31
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: I'm just a Yogi from Muskeogie
From: Robert Weil
On 1999/08/06 09:31, Robert Weil posted thus to the K-list:
At 06:48 6/08/99 PDT, you wrote:
>
>
Hiya Bob,
>>
>> >There have been a lot of posts lately on this list about eclipses
>> >and omens and end-o-the-world ideas. I once got really deeply affected
>>with
>> >this sort of thinking because, I think I was watching too much Pat
>> >Robertson.
Yes, we had some trouble with him on this side of the pond too... :) Bank
of Scotland had to ask him to go away and not be a business partner of
theirs, coz their customers didn't agree with his negative opinions about
the Scottish... :)) Ooh, love thy neighbour as thyself... :))
At any rate, Terrance McKenna on the net has a lot to say
>>about
>> >this and the Mayan calendar.
Yeah, his stuff tends to go whoosh over my head, though I really *try*! :)))
Personally, I like to dismiss these ideas as
>> >being totally useless. I mean, the sun also rises every day doesn't it.
Surely does. Well, as far as I can tell through the East Anglian cloud
layer :)) And every day is different, and every day we are different, or so
it seems. There is no sense to be made of the senses. It's all Maya(n), --
In the end...
I
>> >like the words of the Egyptian Book of Thoth, a relic I think of the
>> >60s':->, in it you are advised to create the world with your left eye and
>> >destroy it with your right eye.
Good ol' Mr C. "our aim is religion, our method is science..." :)
To me this translates to the world does
>> >end---yep, at 10:30 after the nightly news when I cut off the TV and go
>>to
>> >sleep.
:)) And, when you dream, another world is born, maybe several? I think
that's damn cool. :)
Fortunately, it is
>> >magically reborn every morning at about 6:30 AM when I get up and fix
>>myself
>> >a cup of coffee. That's probably the sanest way to look at these sorts of
>> >ideas----rationally and logically. And that's all I got to say about
>>that.
Here's where I got hooked in! :)
If I may float a scenario here:
logic suggests that there is a certain stability in our impressions of the
world (well, it doesn't usually move about as much as when we're dreaming)
:), and thus we tend to find that a cup of coffee (as we experience it)
remains a cup of coffee for the duration of drinking it. We operate on the
belief that the cup will remain a cup long enough to carry out the task of
holding our "coffee".
Now that *may* just be faith, but that's not very logical... If this
apparent stability seems to work in our experience, then other things can
logically be experienced as stable too: for example, objects that occur
with regularity may be regarded as stable events in our reality (not
forever, but long enough to be a safe-ish bet). This leads to
pattern-making, which the human mind is good at. Generally, it seems to
work enough to make decisions on. Given this penchant for patterns, we
operate on the assumption of stability in reality, and we look for the next
stage of stability: meaning.
Reason comes in and tries to make sense of experience. If my coffee tastes
like this today, and has done for years, then I can reasonably assume it
will do that tomorrow. If it doesn't, why not? At this point we start
noticing differences between what we expect (and have experienced for a
while) and what we get. So now we're checking the differences in things,
the change within patterns. What's it about? Why the change? What happen?
So we're immersed in the Maya of the hologram reality. But, logically and
reasonably. We structure our lives in this reality in order to navigate
meaningfully in it (for us). Of course it's illusion, it's a dream we
dream, but we live in it, and it in us.
Logic and reason also are structures we place on reality. So is any belief
system. Our fears, our hopes, our wants. Even our bewilderment. The
decision not to make a decision is also a decision.
I wasn't trying to be patronising. It's just that it's not an either/or
proposition, imo. Probabilities are everywhere you look, and paranoia is
just another state of hypnosis (got that t-shirt....:))) You don't need to
be a slave to your own or others' belief structure. If a thing works for
you, no worries. If not, that's the bee's whiskers too. Speaking for
myself, no system I use has been undeniable since 1980, coz I can't stand
that box anymore. But you gotta navigate... and sometimes things work
pretty well for a while a particular way, and, used gently, they teach....
So I guess I just wanted to say, hope the day treats you well; the
afternoon felt pretty good from here! :)
Earlier
Robert
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