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Recieved: 1999/07/22 12:05
Subject: Re: [K-list] What about Prana and the Patalas?
From: alingimp


On 1999/07/22 12:05, alingimp posted thus to the K-list:


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony O'Clery <aocleryATnospamyahoo.com>
To: KundaliniATnospamList-Server.net <KundaliniATnospamList-Server.net>
Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 10:39 AM
Subject: [K-list] What about Prana and the Patalas?

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>For
>strong and safe arousal of K a Guru is absolutely necessary otherwise
>bad things can happen.

But what about the people who experienced a spontaneous awakening? Most of
us never met a Shaktipat Guru and yet the K in some of us is wide awake
nonetheless.

For example what if the arousal goes down to the
>animal sensation chakras of the lower Lokas/patalas instead of going up
>the spine. The Lokas/patalas are centres below the Muladhara! down to
>the feet! as you probably know. We all know about the other dangers
>associated with K arousal. Some may have risen K up the spine to the
>higher Chakras by the own effort, but invariably it descends again and
>can bring despondency.

>From what I gathered from what I've read so far and from my own experience,
I disagree with the idea to totally discard the lower chakras. Those are
required for proper grounding and for dissolving and transforming the
negative aspects of one's personality. Someone who for example has an open
Ajna but his Muladhara chakra is closed will run into danger of turning
insane because of the fact that he is lacking proper grounding. He'll only
live in the clouds, so to speak. In my opinion, danger can lie as well in
living in the clouds too much without first refining and transforming one's
personality and not only by living in the so called lower nature.

 This is why the Guru and spiritual method is
>safer and permanent. Some people on activating Chakras by-pass the
>Heart Chakra almost altogether.

The safest thing appears to be to integrate all the chakras. At least this
is what K is supposed to do: To raise through all the chakras without
bypassing a single one because, in the end, they are all required in the
process of liberation.
>
>Love Tony.
>
Karin

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