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Recieved: 1999/07/17 09:05
Subject: [K-list] mini poll celibacy / replies
From: A. Erhart
On 1999/07/17 09:05, A. Erhart posted thus to the K-list:
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:45:52 Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>>Although I view sexual emotions as being part of K,
>>I have lately experienced orgasms to release energy
>>downwards, something I'm not always content with.
>>
>>Thus, I understand why sexual energy should be
>>released upwards (it's safer and feels better).
>
> It depends on how you do it.. if you already have the higher chakras
>open,
I think they are all open, to some extent, as I can
direct energy into them and my guide said they were
open. Anyway, the important thing is usage not amount. ;)
>and are using it to ground deeper into your connection with the
>planet, sending orgasms downwards can be wonderful.. Gaia/Shakti gives it
>back better.
There is probably something with my 3rd chakra.
That one has always been a problem and I fear it,
to be honest.
When energy is directed towards the 3rd chakra,
either intentionally or unintentionally, there is
often too much energy going downwards
and I can feel the
energy make a "pop" and too much of it go into the
wrong channel (don't know whether this is really
what is happening, but that is how I experience it)
making the left leg hurt.
I also had panic attacks and gastrointestinal problems
which I suspect was caused by imbalances in the 3rd
chakra. There is somehting there and it's stubborn.
:((
> However, the more you do this the more archetypal stuff will come up,
>the Earth energy will bring up baseline nature instincts for competition
>and territory..
Oh goddess, I don't need more of that. Competition
and territory fighting has been to dominant in this
life already. :( It's still going on, K is still
clearing a lot of that and it's a side of me I never
have managed to deal with appropriately. :(
>"here be dragons".. give them unconditional love and move
>thru them, and you come out the other side to see the Divine perfection in
>the fox and the rabbit, dis-ease and tornados, and all the darker elements
>of "life eats life" that are the wheel of natural selection.. limitless
>manifestation.. Goddess making newer and different models.
:)) You're talking to a biologist here. The divine in
nature has been the only connection to spirituality
for years. Natural selection, evolution and
manifestations of "new" bodies, mutations,
the mysteries of the embryo and the hopeful
monsters have been a long time fascination.
> "Dancing in the cremation ground", giving love to the ugliness of life,
>the scary animal instinct stuff, war and death and rebirth, so as to find
>the light and beauty, the perfection in it and be at peace in the body...
>instead of wishing to be somewhere else, like so many spiritual types who
>think that we need to suffer thru this life and be >rewarded when we die.
Lakshmi (?) is said to be fond of blood and meat.
I agree with what you say above.
> What I see happening with folks who only focus on the higher chakras and
>skip working thru the body instincts, is that the foundation is not solid..
>the result is the Yogi who is resistant to the "chop wood carry water"
>realities of physical life, who would rather be out of body than in it,
>cannot earn a living and sits under a tree waiting to be fed, preaching
>about the evil of the meat eaters and perverts. :)
Still, the more modern views of Yoga does advocate
chop wood carry water. This is the reason for
the idealized jivan mukti being active, not
inactive. I suspect a lot of the body fear in
Yoga and other forms of spirituality has gotten that
good old mind/body divide which so much permeates
Western society and culture.
> When all chakras are opened, one is fully awakened, but that is not
>necessarily the end of the process.
What is, in your view, the end of the process ? :)
I've talked with many about this and would like
more views.
> I was on a "Sky path" for the first part of my life, and it was after I'd
>gone into the light again in my late 20's, and spent some time frustrated
>coz I could not repeat the experience, and wasn't meeting anybody who
>understood it, that I instead began to focus on bringing that light down
>into the physical..
Interesting. :)
> Acts of love and pleasure serve the Goddess. Even very, very kinky
>acts..:)
LOL ! All forms of dedication serves the goddess one
war or another.
> Today while pondering it, trying to let more love in, I started feeling
>the exact spot of the armoring I needed to release, and started
>surrendering it. I got into an ecstatic state, and made Tantric love to my
>druid, as God and Goddess sharing the infinite beauty of cosmic bliss...
> Afterwards he had a healing OBE, spontaneously went back in time and gave
>hope of love in the future to a younger self that remembered it as a
>deja-vu experience.. past and future selves came together for a moment of
>healing that had, indeed given him hope.. that one day his lonely self
>would be lying in bed in the afterglow of union that can only be described
>as Divine.. feeling very loved..
Very beautiful. :))) What a nice gift to the past self, to infuse hope. :)
> The ripples of love move outwards thru the hologram that is the physical
>world, outwards into the past and the future. In the power of the here and
>now, in the joy of bliss, we can heal the past, and change the future.
>
> What a strange and beautiful trip it has been.. being alive.
:))) Thank you Mystress !
Best regards,
Amanda.
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