To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/07/14 04:39
Subject: [K-list] mini poll celibacy / friends ?
From: A. Erhart
On 1999/07/14 04:39, A. Erhart posted thus to the K-list:
On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:13:40 Cheers4U wrote:
>I happen to be married for 20 years
>to a very young soul (in my opinion) who has often times thought I was going
>off the deep end with my awakening. And trust me... the "near" celibacy
>thing has not gone off too well either..LOL.
LOL !
>Anyone else in a steady
>relationship or marriage having these problems? I am not saying either that
>my pulling away from him is for this reason alone. It is probably more that
>we are growing further away from eachother as time goes on. We do not
>resonate with the same vibrations at all... though we have both tried for a
>long time to make this work. We are rather like 2 cymbals clashing.
Dear Lor,
I can really relate to what you're saying. The growth
process changes so much, yet really little, just
removing the outer layers of old patterns and social
restraints, I feel, to reveal the true person underneath. :)
It must be very difficult being in the process while
in a relationship. I must say I have troubles seeing
how relationships can last if there is no growing
together and the rate that happens in makes it almost
impossible for spouses / family to keep up.
>Just
>curious as to how many others have found that they are outgrowing old
>relationships. I find this with friendships as well. I have been drawn to
>many more spiritual people, though I still try to share my light with the old
>friends. Most have no interest, however, and as we have discussed before,
>tend to back off or change the subject. But that is fine too. I would never
>impose my beliefs on anyone or try to change them. But I do now prefer to be
>around those of like spirit and mind, and people who accept me for who I am.
:)) I strongly feel the same as you. :)
Someone said a short time ago that she felt little
connection with ppl these days but still went well
along with all ppl. I hope that is the next stage in
the development.
A few days ago, I found myself chuckling at my boy-
friend because he had been angry at a dog pushing
his dinner down on the floor and making it inedible.
I didn't see that as a problem and since it was a dog
of a breed which does not harbor any anger at all
and which you can't train with much success, I thought
it was pointless getting so angry over it.
When my boyfriend saw that I didn't feel very sorry
for him, he got really annoyed. :/
None of my friends are interested in spirituality.
Sometimes that helps ground me when I'm off into the
woods, but it also leaves me quite isolated.
Sigh, well, I try to show them the results of
the changes instead of talking about it.
The worst is that I supect it would lead to argument
and anger if I did share with them.
One friend told me "Well, I thought you were more
sensible than that" when I told her I was reading
the Yoga Sutras. :( I still identify myself with
my thoughts enough to not want to have to justify
myself to anyone. :( The solution for the moment is:
self imposed silence. :((
>It is funny.. at first my children (13 & 17 now) said to me.. "Mom we liked
>the 'old you' better". Then they thought about it and realized that I am not
>the frustrated lunatic I was a few years ago.
>They have
>actually become very receptive to a lot of my spiritual ideas and beliefs
>now, and that makes me so happy :).
Yes, I'm sure ppl can see the resukts of growing,
and the positive changes, even though they don't
understand what goes on or have to witness the negative
aspects of the growth from time to time. :)
>Sorry.. but perhaps others out there are experiencing similar things in their
>lives. As beautiful as awakening is, like the Tower.. like breakthru.. we
>must shatter our old lives in order to be born again into a better quality
>and more spiritual life in most instances.
:)) Someone on K list just reminded us that the old
symbol for Kundalites and Shaivites in India was
the Shiva Trident. It represented personal freedom and
freedom from the restraints of the rest of society.
:)
I thought that was a nice reminder.
Every person is answerable only to Spirit, nobody
else. :) When Spirit guides us, how can the changes be
wrong ? In my view they aren't. :)
Best regards,
Amanda.
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