To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/07/08 04:13
Subject: Re: [K-list] Why pray ?
From: gopalan n.s.
On 1999/07/08 04:13, gopalan n.s. posted thus to the K-list:
Hi Amanda,
Your response Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 07:02:57 -0700 on the subject.
>Just read a few of the Patanjali Yoga Sutras and your words add to the
>ideas presented >there.
Feet great… & top on the world !!!! LOL !
>>The seeds of birth are sown at the time of Death itself. Thus the cycle
>>of birth starts >>from death.
>Yes, that is how I have "experienced" it too.
Did you experience this !!! Expand.
>The book on Tibetan Dream Yoga I read yesterday, offered one view on this
>question. >Because we are all in the dual perspective, having a dual
>experience, or rather, initially, >viewing god in a dual perspective is a
>good place to start.
>You know that is why the teachings advocate meditation on a dual image at
>first, and >then introduce meditation on a dual concept, for lastly to
>introduce meditation on non >duality.
>To me, this makes a lot of sense.
To me too.
>I am aware that Ramana Maharshi thought the path was different, that we all
>should >start with considering the non dual I right away, but that is very
>difficult and certainly >not for everybody. Even Maharshiji admitted to
>this by adjusting his views a little bit >according to the the views of the
>person with which he spoke. :)
>From day one Non duality is my way. Each one could chose what suits him…
but results too get tailored.
>That staging of levels of perspective and meditation is also the basis for
>Guru Bhakti. >By viewing the Guru as the All, and merging one's mind with
>the Guru, as a >representative of the All, one hopes to transcend the dual
>perspective and attain non >duality. :)
May be it will be of interest to you..
I have my Guru who is very much learned & highly realised soul. An expert
Kundalini Yogi, Ayurvedic Doctor, Vastu specialist, a sanskrit scholor and a
very ordinary person. Our wave lengths are same. He is me & vice versa.
We work on equal wave lengths all the time. I respect him but never look up
to him to pray.. he too doesn't expect it.
>>It is difficult for one person alone, no matter how powerful his mind, to
>>change the >>vast inertia of Mass mind. It would be like pure drop of
>>water trying to clarify the >>whole ocean.
>Now remember what Maharshiji said about karma. One spark of Jnana is enough
>to set >the entire storehouse of karma one person has accumulated over the
>lifetimes on fire. >One spark and the rest will be gone.
The statement I made is with reference to the Mass Mind and not a individual
mind. What you are referring to is the latter one.
>>>Is Mouna Vratha that silent type of teaching that
>>>Ramana Maharshi gave to a few of his students ?
>>Yes.
>Thanks for explaining that. :) I would have loved to have experienced
>Mouna Vratha. :)))
>I have never been in the presence of a great teacher... :((
Me either. You are yourself a Great teacher.
I think & reflect a lot ..
I have found a great friend in you.
With love,
Gopal
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