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Recieved: 1999/05/30 14:35
Subject: Re: [K-list] Kundalini/Chakras
From: Druout


On 1999/05/30 14:35, Druout posted thus to the K-list:

In a message dated 5/29/99 3:48:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au writes:

<< Kundalini moves from muladhara up through the chakras one by one. She
 removes them in the order above. Kundalini can be very active in the
 body prior to the removal of any chakra barriers. >>

Dear List,

Here are two quotes on chakras that I find interesting:

In a chapter called "Are The Chakras Real" by Ken Wilber in the wonderful
book *Kundalini Evolution and Enlightenment* ed. John White, is the following
quote: "...Strictly speaking, final liberation, being the timeless and
therefore eternal condition of all words and selves, is not so much the
*result* of the *action* of untying these knots, but rather the tacit
acknowledgment that these knots do not and cannot, obstruct ultimate
consciousness. Liberation, in short, is not the actual untying of these
knots, but the silent admission that they are already untied. Herein lies
the key to the paradox of the chakras: They are ultimately dissolved in the
realization that thay need not be dissolved."

Coincidentally, yesterday I was browsing through a book I had bought from a
list participant last December that I hadn't yet read. *A Guide to
Shaktipat* by Swami Shivom Tirth. In a question and answer section I found
the following:

"Question: Does the piercing of the six chakras occur in sequence, or can
they be pierced in any order? ...

"Answer: All chakras are pierced simultaneously to various degrees. Work on
some chakras could be so slow that one may not experience anything. Some
other chakra may be pierced through more intensely, and the Kriyas related to
that chakra would be equally intense. Therefore, the aspirant could
misunderstand that even when a particular chakra is not pierced, another
chakra which would seem to be next on the ascending order is already pierced.

"...Sleeping Shakti can be compared to the fire smothering under ashes. The
Muladhar is the fire pot, and the flames of the fire would be above the fire
pot. The flames would blaze and reach new heights from time to time. In the
same way Shakti can be experienced flowing up and down. If it goes up and
one experiences a heavy head, one-pointed mind and bliss, it does not mean
that the lower chakras were not pierced and that the Shakti reached the top
without going through the lower chakras. The truth is that the lower chakras
were definitely pierced to some extent."

Just some food for thought. I suspect the energy follows it's own path in
individual bodies--without necessarily following the "rules," though
guidelines are always helpful.

Love, Hillary

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