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Recieved: 1999/05/14 12:18
Subject: Re: [K-list] Reiki and Kundalini
From: Domagoj Klepac
On 1999/05/14 12:18, Domagoj Klepac posted thus to the K-list:
"meetjf" <meetjfATnospamemail.msn.com> bravely stated the following:
> > > > > Who would believe that Reiki comes from earth and not God! I know
> > > > > missed the beginning of this thread but I am a Reiki III (what the
> > > > > master/teacher) and I know, I mean KNOW that Reiki and K energy are
> > > > > same. Since I am K active as well as a Healer , I feel fully
> > > > > say and feel this.
> > > * * *
> And logicaly that gives me the right to make that statement. I still
> believe that you, Domagoi, would know that they are the same, if you had a
> master level attunement. I am also really glad to hear that you are in the
> Mensa program. They wanted me to join, but to me, having a 150 IQ doesn't
> mean squat, just that you can put the puzzles together.
As I already wrote, of course, that gives you right to make that
statement (not that you wouldn't have that same right even if you
weren't Reiki III).
But that doesn't mean that you're right, right? You could have Reiki III
without even knowing what Reiki really is. Reiki I means that you have
capability of doing Reiki treatments on you. Reiki II means that you
have capability of doing Reiki treatments on others. Reiki III means
that you have capability of doing Reiki on others even on distance.
Those things simply mean that you passed certain initiations and that
you know a bit about Reiki - but they don't mean anything else. That's
why I brought my Mensa test, it's the same wrong criteria. I can't even
say that I would pass Mensa test if I took it again.
All that thing about beeing Reiki III, Mensa member and everything,
doesn't really mean a shit, and I can see that we can agree on that.
Now, let's go on to the issue itself.
> As to Reiki and Kundalini energy being different names so that means they
> are different things....huh? Corn is called corn in our language and masa
> in another, does that make them different? As Maureen stated before, these
> are just different labels from different languages. Reiki is used to heal
> in the chinese culture and the terms for its energy also come from the
> chinese culture and NOT the Indian culture that the term Kundalini comes
> from. Different cultures have different names and ideas as to where things
> come from. Highschool Anthropology should have explained that.
Yes, but it's not as simple as that. Language problems are simple - if I
show you something I call "jabuka" on Croatian, you would say "Oh, I
know what it is, it's an apple!".
But if somebody said "hey, people, something strange is happening to me,
and I feel something going up to my spine, and that is not normal, it
never before happened to me" I would say that he had K-awakening and
told him to relax, and even maybe told him some simple techniques to
calm him down. Reikist would do something completely different, he would
say "OK, something is wrong, let me give you Reiki treatment".
Reiki and Kundalini are simply different things, they have different
effects, they have different techniques, and even if there is some
conection between them, they are different things. You can't just say,
oh, it's the same thing, we just call it differently.
> I can tell that you have your mind made up Domchi, and thats fine, and you
> will not hurt anyones feelings, but I don't think you should make blanket
> statements about something you don't know much about. That beginning
> statement as to knowing where the energy comes from, and seperating it into
> catagories... as from God and asfrom earth, is what surprised the heck out
> of me. But the debate, which is not really a debate but a misunderstanding,
> is starting to rehash the same stuff over and over...which means it should
> be over. Much love, Julie
Well, how can you be so sure that I'm talking about something I don't
know nothing about? Funny, from what you wrote, I could say that you
don't know a thing about where Kundalini comes from and where Reiki
comes from. It surprised the heck out of me that many people who tell
that they work with prana have so vague idea of what prana really is
(and it's not hard to find out such things).
Since you seem to know everything about this issue, and since you seem
to know that it's a misunderstanding, could you please explain it all to
me? I would be most grateful. I wrote a lot of text on this topic and
very little was explained to me, well, I was explained that passing
Mensa test doesn't mean much, and what Reiki is by Reikists definition,
but that's about all. I feel pretty stupid when I write a lot of text,
break myself trying to explain something, and then get reply which says
"OK, have it your own way, I see that I can't change your oppinion, but
know that you don't know nothing, and this all is a great
misunderstanding". Well, thank you very much... :(
Domchi
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