To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/05/12 18:03
Subject: Re: [K-list] Reiki and Kundalini
From: Domagoj Klepac
On 1999/05/12 18:03, Domagoj Klepac posted thus to the K-list:
Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net> bravely stated the following:
> > > Who would believe that Reiki comes from earth and not God! I know I
> > > missed the beginning of this thread but I am a Reiki III (what the term a
> > > master/teacher) and I know, I mean KNOW that Reiki and K energy are
> > > of the
> > > same. Since I am K active as well as a Healer , I feel fully qualified to
> > > say and feel this.
> * * *
> I agree, and am reiki III.
And I don't agree and I don't see any sense in what you're talking.
About titles - I don't have any connection with Reiki, although I did
have some minor contact with it. However, I am a member of Mensa (was...
didn't pay membership) and I feel fully qualified to say that you're
talking nonsense which doesn't stand a bit of criticism. I base that
statement on few facts which I already said, and one of this is as
simple as "if they're not the same, why are their definitions, names,
and effects totally different". Now, that doesn't have much to do with
Reiki qualifications (which I don't have) or Kundalini qualifications
(which I do have), but with pure logic (in which I am competent as
member of Mensa, and as a student of phylosophy which listened subject
called "logic" for two years).
(Oh yes, one little disclaimer, if anybody is offended with what I say
in any way, I don't consider it beeing my problem - please note that I
attacked oppinions and what has been said, and did not make any
insinuations that somebody was stupid or something like that.)
> > Also, even if in your case Reiki and K
> > are the same thing (why do you call them in different names then)
> * * *
> Simply because one is an Oriental term and the other an Indian one.
What is an oriental, and what is an indian term? Please elaborate.
> > In K-awakened people, pranic cleaning is
> > something which comes right after K-awakening, and which doesn't
> > last
> > long if the person doesn't try to fight it.
> * * *
> Exactly the same with reiki. They call it detoxing.
Exactly. Now, observe carefully what I said. I said that Reiki has the
same effect as one phase which comes right at the beggining of Kundalini
process. However, this is the most basic stage Kundalini deals with, and
for Kundalini it's basic thing as opening the doors to enter the room
and do something meaningful. However, Reiki stays at this stage and
knows nothing about the next stage. From that I drew the conclusion that
Reiki and Kundalini cannot be the same.
> Whether on a
> physical level,dreamlevel,past life level,etc.,,all of them. This is
Please, continue. What other levels does Reiki deal with? You've
mentioned physical level. You've mentioned astral level too (dreams,
past life, akashic records, feelings, astral projections, lucid dreams,
they all belong to astral level).
However, interesting, you did not mention pranic level. By the
definition Reiki deals with energy called prana, chi, etc. Now, you
didn't mention that - does that mean that Reiki deals with everything
except with that by which it deals by its definiton?
I'm totally confused now. What is Reiki exactly?
> semantics.Reiki is K without the glamour.
> Reiking a person is K energy waking up their K energy.A God force
> stimulating their God force to activity.
If Reiki and Kundalini are the same, why don't Reikied people have any
of Kundalini symptoms?
> It is interesting for me because little did I realise that when
> blessing people after Mass I was actually Shatipating them. Some I could
> explain this to and some I could not as they were a little bit enclosed
> in their labeling of ritual. After I recieved my mastership in Reiki I
> then saw that I was reiking them. Shatpat, reiki, or blessing.
Same question. Does that mean that anybody who has ever been blessed or
attended a Mass have awakened Kundalini? I've attended a Mass long
before my K-awakening; the experience of K-awakening (and everything
that happened before) was totally different from that.
I simply see no logic in your statements, and in statement that Reiki
has anything to do with Kundalini. I sincerely apologize, but I don't.
Domchi
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