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Recieved: 1999/05/11 12:58
Subject: Re: [K-list] Shamanism and ego-death.. was: Input desperately
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 1999/05/11 12:58, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 10:32 AM 5/11/99 , GCWein1111ATnospamaol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 5/11/99 4:11:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com writes:
>
> >>
> Angelique, you probably guessed someone might ask about this one--sorry I
>had to be the one to pull this reference to the Fuhrer out of what was a
very
>interesting post. But I have to ask: under what usage of the term "avatar"
>does Hitler qualify as an avatar? He wouldn't seem to fit the category as
the
>Hindus traditionally use it, would he? I 'd really like to hear how you
>arrived at this . thanx jerry
Oy, didn't we thrash out "Avatar" enough already? LOL!! It's OK..
thankyou for your interest..
My first exposure to the word "Avatar" was a book by a psychic, Geoff Grey
Cobb, called the "Miracle of New Avatar Power".. had all kinds of weird
rituals with long theosophical names of spirits.. and Richard Bach..
"Illusions".. so I dunno if I can answer your question coz I probably could
not quote the Hindu definition.
I would say that he probably does not fit the Hindu definition of Avatar,
coz he was not a Hindu.. he manifested the ideals of the German culture of
his time.
I will say what I meant. My reference to Avatars, was made in a Shamanic,
Magickal context, and refers to a person who has sent the original
ego-personality into the light, and had a new ego installed... A Divinity,
or a "Manchurian Candidate".. depending on whether the dismantling happens
in the context of spirit or brainwashing.. a human who has killed off the
original ego-personality, somehow in order to become the vessel or
embodiment of an Archetypal Divinity.
It is pretty well known that the Nazis were very much into the Occult..
the "Raiders of the Lost Ark" movie series played on those connections..
the fella who became Adolf Hitler was a shell shocked WW1 veteran who went
to an army psychiatrist who was heavily involved in an occult German
Supremacist organization... who saw in him the potential figurehead their
organization had been seeking.
So, a nice young partly Jewish German man with an already fragmented ego
was given the standard cult indoctrination, approval and acceptance.. and
the remnants of the original ego were dismantled, and finally killed
altogether with the use of ancient Egyptian rituals such as have been
handed on by various Masonic institutions.. the same occult technology that
made Cleopatra the embodiment of Isis.. at deepest roots, it is the same as
made the Mayan and Aztec God-Kings.
The mythology of the Nazi occult, was that the German Messiah would come
to lead the German people to their rightful place of world Supremacy, a
warrior to destroy the perceived enemy.. the illusory "Jewish Conspiracy"
that existed nowhere outside of the Nazi's own paranoia.
The original ego removed, the new one was installed.. the reborn divinity
was hailed as Adolf Hitler, the German Messiah, born to lead the German
people to a new golden age ... yadda yadda.. newborn psyches are as
impressionable as baby ducks.. they identify with the first "Big thing"
they see moving. Kind of scary.. fear that I am releasing lest it find
manifestation..
I have read that every expectant Mother fears giving birth to a Monster..
so it is, in a way for me.. Goddess gift of inspiration that allows me to
be guide in the process of assisting ego-death and rebirth, also shows me
the dark of the coin.
Gifts of insight into understanding how Hitler was indeed an Avatar,
deliberately created, as we create all of our Gods, thru acts of Magic done
by those who were not yet fully cleared of the free will choice to act in
fear. Certainly a fractured Avatar, by Hindu standards.. but those are the
judgments of culture.. I received these insights in a state of non-judgment.
He was the spiritual leader of the Nazi Religion, with it's bible Mien
Kamph on every coffee table, and more battlefield martyrs than the
Christian Crusades. His K-fired charisma was legendary, as a motivational
speaker, he made people weep and faint.. and his remaining followers at
this time compare themselves to the early Christians, calling him a martyr
and gathering in secret to avoid persecution while they try to increase
their numbers...
My apologies if my comparisons between Hitler and Christ seem offensive,
but the Nazis drew considerably from Christian paradigms, and frankly, I
think most historians would be hard pressed to measure if the body count
and atrocities of the history of the Catholic Church, with it's witch
burnings, inquisitions and plague carrying missionaries, along with the
Pope's effect on the population explosion.. was not higher than that of the
Nazi Holocaust.. The path of Good Intentions.. sigh..
Looking at it from another perspective, the Jewish people had expected
that their Messiah would be a warrior-King who would free them from the
shackles of Rome.. he refused: "Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar", due
to the Hindu pacifist influence of his initiation, and that refusal was
part of the political intrigue that led to the crucifixion, and modeled the
attitude of the Inquisition, that suffering is the path to salvation.. and
while I'm at it, let's throw in Gandhi.. a non violent pacifist whose
bloodless revolution created an independent India that now tests nukes..
Glory be, the road of Good intentions.. Newton's law.. action->re-action..
I just follow my bliss, and be Self-ish. :) Does that answer your
question? Blessings..
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