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Recieved: 1999/05/04 21:26
Subject: Re: [K-list] Intro I - living narratives
From: gopalan n.s.
On 1999/05/04 21:26, gopalan n.s. posted thus to the K-list:
Hi Satu & to all,
I have been browsing though the K-list, thoughts being exchanged for couple
of weeks. I was wondering as how I would enter the thought stream... and it
is your email Satu that made me move. Thanks.
I will revert on your email later.
A thought on "BALANCE" in life, perhaps would make the ball start rolling.
Depending on the degree of the interaction with the environment the
individual's personality is classified in to a typical group of Introvert or
Extrovert. Every individual while stepping in to this world, to begin with,
is an Introvert, who is weak, not knowing, creative, adventurous, sensitive,
possessive, needs love/affection, fearful/needs protection, rebellious,
restless, frank, exploring and HIGHLY IMBALANCED.
In the course of interaction with the environment an individual attempts to
be confident, understanding, patient, balanced, rational/practical and yet
many time remains to be commanding, following fixed path, impractical, not
frank/a diplomatic, and HIGHLY IMBALANCED.
In order to live purposefully one needs to extensively interact with the
environment and tend to be an extrovert. Whatever be the case, an extrovert
can never be in balance. More an extrovert one is; more the imbalance one
tends to be in.
This Imbalance can be traced to the fact that human beings are restless in
nature. The mind which commands/directs every thought-action is itself
restless. The mind in itself is not independent. A force many a time
unknown acts on it Cosmic Force? K force?
Few questions raised...
Is a state of Balance Required at all ?
If yse, could that be achieved ?
Personally I see the beauty in appreciating the imbalance in life and see a
total balance in this imbalance. This total balance is possible only when
one assumes a "WITNESS STATE", being a catalyst, participating and yet not
innvolved.
" I AM A SCRATCH, YOU ARE A SCRATCH, YOU CLAIM YOU ARE A BIGGER SCRATCH AND
I CLAIM I AM A BIGGER SCRATCH; BUT AFTER ALL BOTH OF US ARE SCRATCHES" an
attitude would do the trick.
With love,
Gopal
>From: satu.sihvoATnospamfimnet.fi (Satu Sihvo)
>Reply-To: satu.sihvoATnospamfimnet.fi (Satu Sihvo)
>To: kundaliniATnospamList-Server.net
>Subject: [K-list] Intro I - living narratives
>Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:15:52 +0300
>
>Hi all!
>
>I have been lurking for some weeks and I think it is about time to step in.
>I live in a 48 year old female body. About 20 years ago I got to hear a
>talk about yoga (by accident - I had went to hear about hypnosis). I got
>interested in the claim that relaxation is a dynamic state... and within
>some weeks I was doing practices to find out if there really was some other
>reality than the one we hear and see. Yes, some weeks later I had the most
>beautiful experience, heard the words about kingdom of heaven within us -
>and my life changed. I meditated/ prayed/ worshipped /relaxed /got
>refreshed in different frameworks for the following 15 years. There were
>many nice (sometimes strange) experiences but not like the first one. My
>last framework dissolved from within about five years ago and I felt I had
>got enough of them.
>
>Then I got interested in solution focused therapy, studied more hypnosis,
>became NLP master practitioner. Many of the NLP techniques worked well
>with
>me and used them to clear my "knots". It might be that my "awakening" has
>been relatively nice because of that. And perhaps because of living
>narratives? With a living narrative I mean a certain technique I happened
>to
>found during my NLP experiments. I have tested it a lot with myself and
>with everyone who has been willing to try. And it is now used at least by
>some NLP trainers in Finland. It is simply about having a goal (like a
>new,
>ecological viewpoint to a problem), getting a starting picture from one's
>creative spirit/God/... then stepping into the picture and having an
>adventure. It produces a state that resembles a lucid dream. Or a trance
>adventure. Usually full of paradoxes and humor - and deep insights later
>on. It can be used in many ways. Even for health issues. Perhaps someone
>with kundalini symptoms could find some relief?
>
>What is new under the sun? I have been told that the living narrative is
>very much like Silva method. I do not know Silva, so I cannot tell. But
>when I told about some of my adventures to a shaman friend, he said that I
>am making shamanic trips. So I bought a book about shamanism... and to my
>mind shamanism was nothing but NLP in different words (or NLP is very much
>like a modern version of shamanism). Yeah, there are basic things that
>work
>and that have worked for ages and people keep finding them again and again
>and again. (And start giving new names and fighting for copyrights...)
>
>Strange energy things started to take place in my life about a year ago.
>(I
>put them into a different mail. This one is about narratives.) About a
>year ago I also asked for a story about the purpose of my life. And I got
>a
>bird flying with its belly towards the sky. I became that bird and felt
>the
>air at my back. Did divings like Jonathan Seagull. It felt great! Wanted
>to see how far up I could go. And ended up somewhere in space and felt my
>body going into small particles - and each one of them had the sense of "I
>am". I was shocked and wanted to get back together and down to the earth -
>and quickly. On the way back I heard the words: "Teach reorganization of
>energy".
>
>I have not used narratives a lot after that. But every now and then I get
>one during my meditation. During the latter ones I have got some power
>animals and I was quite amazed to find out that in fact they were like
>symbols of some very deep wishes in my life. Some deep desires linked with
>a lot of energy. And there were adventures with these helpful animals and
>I
>was faced with fears and frustrations... Some stories have got the next
>chapter months later. And now I have got some narratives while doing daily
>things (outside meditation). It is like if a bunch of thoughts with enough
>energy would become "seen". I "saw" my "version" of a dear friend sitting
>next to me, smiling nicely and saying: "You know, creators are not
>supposed
>to worship their creatures". To my mind I did not worship him - but this
>episode certainly led to a series of insights... At the moment I am
>wondering what all I have created or absorbed around me during this life.
>How many lies there are hanging around and tying my energy? It is funny
>this around. And that it might be felt within the body as a blockage?
>Does
>this "seeing thoughts" make sense to you?
>
>Joy,
>Satu
>
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