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Recieved: 1999/04/30 06:22
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Karma/Astro (domchi)
From: Domagoj Klepac


On 1999/04/30 06:22, Domagoj Klepac posted thus to the K-list:

Rik Wallace <love_rikATnospamyahoo.com> bravely stated the following:
> > [regarding the point of astrology...] what I actually would
> > like to know is how do I react, what's wrong with me, not how
> > others influence me.
>
> Hmm... For me, 'how I react' tends to be the same as
> 'how others influence me' and 'what's wrong with me'.
> Clever paradox you present.

Well, influence is one thing, reaction second, and shit the third. Shit
makes possible for other's to influence you and trigger reactions which
are actually not yours, but shit's.

When there is no shit, you are the one who chooses how to react,
depending on other's reactions. Others don't influence your reactions,
you influence reactions.

I don't see any paradox there. :)

> > things over and over. What's next?".
>
> In my experience...the same 'thing' repeated over and over. :)
> But I see how being open to new interpretations could allow you
> to 'stay' and repeat the same thing over and over without
> getting bored.

Maybe, but then that thing is HUGE. It takes piles of time until another
cycle. :) Interpretations and boredom are just a small part of that
giant thing, which come at the beginning.

> > > And, if you know the next step, how does one do that?
> >
> > I don't know. I don't worry too much about next step, I focus
> > on current step.
>
> Tell me again... what is a 'step'?
> Is it what I just tripped on?

No, no... step /step/ n 1 the act of putting one foot in front of the
other in order to move along... ;)

> > I know that at first I had to solve many things about myself -
> > which came mostly with some energetic cleanings.
>
> Oh, is that like the monks who say, "If you want to know
> the meaning of life, first rake the yard".

Makes sense. ;)

> > What's next? I really don't know.
>
> A book? A movie? Nobel Prize? Devotional web site?

:)))))))))))

> > If astrology is tool which I could use, fine, I'll go and use
> > it, if not, than it's useless to me.
>
> Many believe astrology is of and about the 'Self'.
> However you may be correct, at least for me, that as
> a tool, I am useless.
>
> (I'm much more useful as a problem.)

:))))))))))))))))) ROTFL. :)))

> > when somebody needs you, you're there, you simply know what's
> > the problem and how to fix it or how to help him fix it. There
> > are no books with rules how to do that.
>
> You obviously shop in a different bookstore. ;)
> But yeah, as for tools for fixing problems, I'll admit
> to being a free-loader. I've never met a person who
> came to me with a problem who didn't bring the right 'tool'.

Oh, that's the problem with capitalism. Everyone tries to sell, sell,
sell... Here in post-comunistic countries it's a bit different. You can
buy it, if you have enough money... but mostly you end up buying (or
even making or improvising) when you _really_ need it.

You can't afford to buy something you don't need or sell something you
need... ;)

> Here's to home improvement, Domchi... cheers Rik

Cheers! :)

  Domchi

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