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Recieved: 1999/04/28 17:20
Subject: Re: [K-list] Karma & Astrology
From: Domagoj Klepac
On 1999/04/28 17:20, Domagoj Klepac posted thus to the K-list:
LeTeegeeATnospamaol.com bravely stated the following:
> Hi Domchi... I think if I give you an analogy, you might understand a wee bit
> better as I see a sameness in the way we think.
>
> . Think of astrology as "understanding yourself".
> . Think of the transiting planets as thoughts, feelings, beliefs, and
> perceptions ... also people (even though they have their own natal
> chart)
> . Think of your own natal chart as you.
>
> Imagine the above for a moment and read on...
OK...
> > You ask, "what's the point of astrology?" What's it good for?
>
> Now if we use the above analogy... what's the point of understanding
> yourself? What's it good for? Now, I'm asking you that question. I really
> would like to hear your answer, and anyone else's!
If we follow this analogy, then the point of understanding yourself is
understanding how others influence you.
But I think that in this point this analogy doesn't quite help me with
my question, what I actually would like to know is how do I react,
what's wrong with me, not how others influence me. I want to be active,
change myself, I don't want to look others; others come and go, I stay.
> .... Actually, maybe I should rephrase my second question. :) Of what
> use can it be to me?
>
> Ok, I'll rephrase... of what use can understanding yourself be to you? I
> don't know the answer you would choose so I'd be interesting in hearing this
> too. It may or may not be the same as the former question.
When I observe my development, my growth, I see that it comes in cycles.
First I look around me and I say "OK, nice, now I know different things,
but those different things don't mean much to me - I know everything
about them, I may use them if I need to, but I don't want to spend my
life repeating those things over and over. What's next?". Then I learn
something new - and I'm not talking about "memorizing some new facts",
I'm talking about something what would be best described as spreading of
consciusness. And then again I feel an urge to go on.
> .... so it would be ideal exactly for my purpose. But it
> seems that it's not quite that... that's why I'm confused about
> astrology.
>
> LOL! You are quite wise. Let me ask you this... once understanding yourself
> and becoming an expert at it, what would be the next step, if any?
>
> And, if you know the next step, how does one do that?
I don't know. I don't worry too much about next step, I focus on current
step.
I know that at first I had to solve many things about myself - which
came mostly with some energetic cleanings. Then came something
different, going through different experiences. It seems that I've gone
through everything people usually experience in their lives; from
uncertanty, agression, fear, sex, love, learning how to express myself,
learning how to look and participate in things around me, beeing angry
on the world, etc, etc... at one fun period I even went through all
gender-related issues: first beeing a woman, when I went around looking
at dresses and wanting to wear them; then as a woman who fell in love
with a woman, then as a men who fell in love with man, and as a woman
who fell in love with a man... etc, etc... I even had some homosexual
experiences during that time, both lesbian and gay...
What's next? I really don't know.
> Now... forgetting the analogy for a sec, if you want to understand yourself,
> what is it you would do? Do you need a tool, such as astrology, for this?
I'm interested in anything that could be a tool to that. Such
understanding comes with time, I think Kundalini forces you to try to
understand yourself, there are methods like introspection...
If astrology is tool which I could use, fine, I'll go and use it, if
not, than it's useless to me.
> .... Goddess has it handled, as Angelique always says. Whenever somebody
> needed me, in any way, no matter how tired or dead I was, I was there
> and focusing, listening or whatever was not a problem. It's not that I
> forced myself - simply, when something had to be done (even if it was
> listening to somebody's broken heart) I could do it. So, IMHO, physics
> who have such problems either aren't physics (?), or their clients
BTW, I had lapsus lingua here - of course, this should be psychics, not
physics. :)
> didn't need to hear something from them anyway. :)
>
> How can you truly know another's true needs? I ask this sincerely and
> am not poo-pooing what you said.
I don't know. From my experiences, this comes with Kundalini - when
somebody needs you, you're there, you simply know what's the problem and
how to fix it or how to help him fix it. There are no books with rules
how to do that.
Domchi
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