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Recieved: 1999/04/25 16:14
Subject: Re: [K-list] Part of God's plan? or Karma and Divine Will or wh
From: Domagoj Klepac
On 1999/04/25 16:14, Domagoj Klepac posted thus to the K-list:
"Llewellyn" <ljonesATnospamzlink.net> bravely stated the following:
> We can remind ourselves of how relatively non-important our physical bodies
> really are and that our spirit and soul survives and grows. We may think
> that these situations somehow must fit into a divine plan or will, that even
> though it does not make sense to us, we must have faith and that all is just
> the way it should be and always has been. It is possible to say, that
> through these troubling situations, spiritual progress and growth is
> occurring and somehow with this thought try to rest our troubled hearts and
> souls. But why?
Only way to answer this question is to look deep within yourself - why
does it feel so bad, why is it wrong; or why shouldn't it be wrong? Why
does it disturb you, what would be your ideal world and why this world
here isn't ideal? Question is not "Why", it's "Why not?".
> Are we co-creators of our existence with a higher power and able to modify
> the pre-written script for our destiny - or do we just have limited ability
> to change our reactions and responses to events that must play out according
> to some plan that is hard-wired into the circuitry and program of humanity
> and life.
Actually, it's the third option. :)
Free will doesn't mean that there is no Gods plan. There is, and we
can't do anything that would not be in it. If we kill somebody or if we
don't - it's all part of Gods plan, we can't do anything against God's
plan.
I look at it this way - Gods plan has "if" clauses for every possible
our action. It's the giant computer game (maybe Doom or Duke Nukem ;) ).
We can do everything, kill everybody or let ourselves be killed; or we
can educate ourselves, or have sex and produce other characters in game.
But it's all in the game.
However, we can exit the game when we're tired of playing. Then we're
not Duke Nukem anymore.
The point of Gods plan is that we become tired of game at one point and
exit. Everything else, including high scores, is just an irelevant
game... :)
> If we say some action is wrong and try to influence and shape
> events some say we are just exercising our ego and that the road to Hell is
> paved with good intentions.
It is not wrong to influence and shape events. That why we're here.
The only question is "how do you know that you're doing the best thing".
When you think that you should only do 'good' things, then you
inevitably stumble upon question "but what is 'good' really?" - and the
answer is that there is no way you could know what is 'good'. The next
question is "why should I do 'good' anyway, if I can't tell what is
really good?".
Domchi
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