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Recieved: 1999/04/25 15:45
Subject: Re: [K-list] Kundalini
From: Domagoj Klepac
On 1999/04/25 15:45, Domagoj Klepac posted thus to the K-list:
Marcia bravely stated the following:
> I just ran across something I find interesting in a
> book of essays on Gurdjieff. This essay is by
> Ravi Ravindra titled "Comparative Studies".
>
> turvy. Ouspnesky quotes Gurdjieff as saying:
> "In reality Kundalini is the power of imagination, the power
> of fantasy, which takes the place of a real function....
Quite the opposite. Kundalini slowly replaces fantasy with reality.
> Kundalini can act in all centers and with its help all the
> centers can be satisfied with the imaginary instead of the
> real...
If this 'centres' are chakras, then this man knows nothing about
Kundalini or chakras. Above the heart, anahata chakra, there is nothing
but reality, no imagination, no lies. They simply don't exist there,
there is no need for them and nobody there buys them.
> Kundalini is a force put into men in order to keep
> them in their present state.
?!? Kundalini is force put in the men in order to change him. If I try
to compare myself before Kundalini and no, I find little things that
have stayed the same.
> If men could really see their
> true position and could understand all the horror of it,
> they would be unable to remain where they are even for
> one second. They would begin to seek a way out and
> they would quickly find it, because there is a way out;
> but men fail to see it
This is true.
> ...simply because they are hypnotized.
...and this is not. Nobody is hypnotized. People simply don't want to be
open to reality and live in their worlds. Hypnotized, maybe - but they
hypnotized themselves.
> Kundalini is the force that keeps them in a hypnotic state.
False.
> "To awaken" for man means to be "dehypnotized."
True.
> the most thorough and insightful authority on yoga, Patanjali,
> the author of the celebrated Yoga Sutras, never mentions
> Kundalini, and some of the very ancient and authoritative texts
Kundalini is only thing which can lead men to spiritual development.
To be K-awakened means "to put your foot on the Path".
There is no real spiritual development without Kundalini.
> on yoga, such as Yoga Yajnavalkya, regard Kundalini to be a
> hindrance in the spiritual evolution of a person, an impediment
> which needs to be removed in order to be touched and trans-
> formed by the energy from Heaven. The human being is situated
> along an axis stretched from Heaven to earth, and the proper
> inner order demands a flow of energy (prana) from above
> downwards. Naturally, the powers from below, entrenched and
> coiled up in the organism as Kundalini, resist and try to block
> the entry and movement of prana from above."
Kundalini is not an energy or prana. Kundalini is force - or something -
which transform. Kundalini makes place for those "energies from Heaven".
> I have never studied Kundalini but I am curious as to what
> anyone thinks if anything of the above quote.
> Marcia
Wrote it above.
Domchi
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