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Recieved: 1999/03/19 08:23
Subject: [K-list] TM and Kundalini
From: Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)
On 1999/03/19 08:23, Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) posted thus to the K-list:
Hello everyone. I am forwarding the following end part of a conversation
between Professor Eggers and myself, with her permission, as it may be
useful for people considering learning meditation who also have an interest
in Kundalini Shakti.
Harsha
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>Hello Jill. I am posting my response to you below. If it is alright with
you
>can I post it on my list and a couple of other lists as it might be
>informative to some people. Thanks.
>
>Harsha
Sure Harsha, feel free. I appreciated the chance to address this topic, and
your response as well. If anyone contacts you who is interested in more
information on both the strengths and limitations of the TM program, feel
free to refer them to me!
Jill
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Shy Person [mailto:****ATnospamtwsuvm.uc.twsu.edu
>
>Yes, Harsha. The TM organization IS mostly silent on kundalini. The
>organization seems to discourage any focus on the "special effects" of
>meditation practices. Most of the tm teachers I have talked to have
>emphasized the goals of meditation and have suggested that talking about
>the phenomena which arise (thorugh K activity, or simple the milder
>throwing-off of stress through meditation) is distracting to the goals of
>enlightenment and somewhat beside the point. Much like what Patanjali says
>in the yoga sutras, don't get distracted by siddhis, etc. from the true
>goal.
>
>That said, however, I have also found many TM teachers and others
>associated with the organization to be very helpful and insightful in
>dealing with kundalini processes. I consulted Deepak Chopra when he was
>with the organization, when k activity first began for me, and he explained
>that this was a self-limiting process, and helped me get a clearer view
>during my initial fears. Chris Clark, a physician who runs the ayurvedic
>medical center in Fairfield, Iowa, was helpful in recommending reduced
>meditation times when the k activity became too crazy. Another tm teacher
>in Fairfield taught me some yoga asanas which she thought might help in
>dealing with k activity. Rama Kant Mishra, a doctor who develops ayervedic
>herbal preparations for Maharishi Ayurveda, has been extremely helpful. He
>has clear and I believe first-hand experience with kundalini, and can give
>really insightful guidance about how much meditation and what ayurvedic
>practices or herbs would be helpful to an individual with k activity.
>
>So, while there is no official way in which the organization addresses
>kundalini, there is a support network there. I do find one has to really
>listen to one's own process and try any recommendations really cautiously.
>For example, some TM teachers simply said, keep meditating, keep
>meditating, and for my process, this became dangerous. (As always, K
>herself makes the ultimate rules once she comes into our lives.)
>
>Jill
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>Harsha: Thanks Jill for that lucid explanation. I visited Fairfield, Iowa,
>where the Maharshi university is, to attend a seminar on leadership from
the
>TM perspective some years ago. It was a small group and Dr. King, their
>president was one of the main speakers. The talk was very enjoyable and
>afterwards I spoke with Dr. King and many of the other people there. An
>extremely gifted and a talented group. I had a chance to visit the dome
>where TM practitioners meditate together, and it was very impressive. From
>the vibrations, it was clear that there were some highly advanced
meditators
>around. As you noted, although TM is silent on Kundalini, they do have a
>very sophisticated support system for their practitioners. I have, however,
>heard some anecdotes that people experiencing the kundalini symptoms have
>sometimes been misunderstood by TM teachers who simply were not familiar
>with Kundalini. Being an Indian, and knowing something about the rich
>variety of traditions, it seems to me that TM is just one of the many
>options available to people to learn meditation. And it is expensive. The
>higher up you go (Siddhis and all that) the more expensive it is! TM
>movement offers their technique as the one universal technique for
everyone,
>which is a bit self serving and in my view inaccurate. But I have met many
>really good people who are either in TM or were formerly in TM. There was
>one person that I met in Fairfield, who is completely unknown, who radiated
>a unique peaceful aura and I profoundly felt it. I wished to enjoy his
>company more but was unable to do it due to my circumstances. In any case,
I
>am simply stating my views and hope it does not offend you Jill or anyone
>else. I respect all paths and all ways as they lead the same place.
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