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Recieved: 1999/03/03 13:59
Subject: [K-list] two cents more
From: b. john murray
On 1999/03/03 13:59, b. john murray posted thus to the K-list:
b. john murray wrote:
>
> You wrote:
> >Kundalini is the power of pure desire within us, a motherly and soothing
> >spiritual energy which lies dormant
> > in the sacrum bone, at the base of the spine. Self Realization is
> >the awakening of the Kundalini, which has
> > been the ultimate goal of all religions and spiritual traditions
> >of the world. In Shri Mataji's own words, "Self
> > Realization is the first encouter with Reality".
> >
> > "We have the Mother within ourselves, in our hearts, and if She is
> >awakened, She is going to look after us.
> > She is going to give all the protection that is needed. And there
> >is nothing to be frightened of anything."
> >
> > "Kundalini cures you, she improves you, she bestows all the
> >blissful things upon you. She takes you away
> > from the worries of the grosser level", says Shri Mataji.
> >
> >There are a lot of articles in the Internet about the kriyas that you
> >are worried about. Search, and it will help a lot.
> >You basically need a guru to play it safe. It is much safer to travel
> >this path with a guru, that is a concept difficult to swallow but
> >essential.
> >Read about it.
> >
> >Peace ,
> >
> >Lissette
> >
> >
> I'm beginning to feel better about this kundalini stuff already!
>
> many thanks
>
> Kelvyn
>
> May I add my two cents here? -
>
> I think the ultimate goal should be the balancing of ones karma and
> ascension back to God's heart from whence we came eons ago. This can be very
> different from the lesser goal of self realization.
>
> john
Go Bro! -
But the think the True notion of Self Realization is one in the same.
Meaning we peel away the layers of ego, leaving only the "Self"- that
part of the Divine which dwells within us as pure Truth. Then and only
then we are able to merge back into the the Infiity of pure unmanifest
consciuosness, the larger ocean from which the Self that dweels within
us came.
two cents more:
Nicely put my bro. But don't we still have to balance our karma to return to
God's heart? Can this be accomplished simply by meditating or letting the K
energy rise and cleanse? Does not God require every jot of our karma be
expunged either via outworking it, good works, prayer or God's mercy? Can
heaven be stormed by force? I do not see enlightenment as equalling
ascension back to God, necessarily. Does being in bliss or peeling away
layers of ego also consume all records of eons of our personal karma? Even
if the karma is burnt out of our spiritual garments, does God have recording
Ministers who still have a record of that which yet remains to be balanced
to satisfy the Law? If we think otherwise, will we find ourselves right back
here in another lifetime trying to get it right?
john
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