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Recieved: 1999/02/23 10:19
Subject: Fwd: Re: [K-list] K fears
From: Catherine Berger
On 1999/02/23 10:19, Catherine Berger posted thus to the K-list:
note: forwarded msg attached.
Hi, Sorry I forgot to copy the list.
Cathy
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From: Catherine Berger <linder_hoffATnospamyahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [K-list] K fears
To: Constance Ashworth <molecularbreezeATnospamsprynet.com>
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Hi Connie,
I don't think I've told this group that my mother and I are now in
joint counseling (on the astral plane, or dreamworld as I call it.)
Perhaps you should try to work out some of these problems in one of
the other realities. You can invite the personality of whoever is
living these difficulties with you to meet and talk, and you both may
learn something about what is driving the relationship.
Even if you don't see your dreams and daydreams as another reality,
realize that what goes on in your mind IS your reality. Try
suggesting this meeting to yourself before you go to sleep.
Cathy
---Constance Ashworth <molecularbreezeATnospamsprynet.com> wrote:
>
> Gloria wrote:
> This is why you bring the detachment into your
> daily life so that you can create that space and be able to witness
> yourself in whatever is coming down. In this you will be able to
observe
> it and be able to pull out of situations instead of reacting.
>
> Dear Gloria and my other List Friends,
>
> This is a very useful concept to absorb...another tool to take care of
> myself, another affirmation that rings with truth for me, assisting in
> providing impetus for me to forge ahead with the "work" at hand.
This is a
> difficult time for me, I feel quite vulnerable, as I am released
from the
> attachment to this man, this relationship. So much of my
functioning is
> screwed up, I feel as if each of my bodies are just kiltering in
different
> directions at will,
>
> The List is invaluable in assisting me with focusing my thinking (my
mental
> body), however. I am really using many things that I find as truth
from
> this list to discipline my thinking. I also have a counseling
appointment
> Friday. I really need some help in learning why I choose to bond
with mates
> who have such a powerful need to utilize controlling behaviors and
tactics.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
> To: Constance Ashworth <molecularbreezeATnospamsprynet.com>
> Cc: LeTeegeeATnospamaol.com <LeTeegeeATnospamaol.com>;
frank.johnson3ATnospamworldnet.att.net
> <frank.johnson3ATnospamworldnet.att.net>; KundaliniATnospamList-Server.net
> <KundaliniATnospamList-Server.net>
> Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [K-list] K fears
>
>
> >Constance Ashworth wrote:
> >
> >Hi Constance,
> > I'm glad you were able to get some clarity with this. It is always
> >interesting to move through change. It brings up things that were
> >suppressed and others that are being set up for new areas of
growth. As
> >you said, it seemed amazing that you didn't see the abuse while it
was
> >coming down but sometimes the reactions are so strong that you can't
> >until you detach enough. This is why you bring the detachment into
your
> >daily life so that you can create that space and be able to witness
> >yourself in whatever is coming down. In this you will be able to
observe
> >it and be able to pull out of situations instead of reacting. Neat
> >realization! Gloria
> >>
> >> Dear Gloria,
> >>
> >> I have recently begun the process of starting anew, coming out of a
> 3-year
> >> relationship with someone who projected his many fears upon me.
I can
> only
> >> now write about it in this manner now as this awareness was
previously
> >> unavailable to me, which is why I stayed with it for so long. I
was
> >> inclined to make many efforts limiting myself, to appease his
unfounded
> >> jealously and his controlling behaviors of which translated into
> emotional
> >> and verbal abuse, though, again it now seems strange that I did
not label
> >> things as such all along.
> >>
> >> I am applying myself towards NOT looking back and seek
affirmations to
> use
> >> to focus myself, as this method, of using words, is very
effective for
> me.
> >>
> >> You said,
> >> Surrender is a key.... surrender your thoughts, your feelings and
> >> perceptions
> >> >> about this process and your fears to God. Ask for
reinterpretation,
> >> another
> >> >> way of looking at this, as you have interpreted them as
fearful. What
> >> you
> >> >> don't give to God, goes to ego.
> >> AND
> >> ...that fear is the self-imposed block to the awareness of love's
> >> presence. When fear is released, love is revealed.
> >>
> >> I say:
> >>
> >> You words provided a clear glimpse of the simplicity of the
situation I
> was
> >> in...his fears (of himself) rendered him incapable of (blinded
him) to
> the
> >> intention which existed in me... my commitment and my acts of
love which
> >> were there for him always. But enough of identifying with his
drama. I
> >> don't want to look back.
> >>
> >> Recovery from this...surrender.
> >> Thanks for writing. See, Gloria, you never know how your sharing
of your
> >> heart will serve another.
> >> Love,
> >> Connie
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
> >> To: LeTeegeeATnospamaol.com <LeTeegeeATnospamaol.com>
> >> Cc: frank.johnson3ATnospamworldnet.att.net
<frank.johnson3ATnospamworldnet.att.net>;
> >> KundaliniATnospamList-Server.net <KundaliniATnospamList-Server.net>
> >> Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 3:04 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [K-list] K fears
> >>
> >> >LeTeegeeATnospamaol.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >Gloria:
> >> >
> >> >This was sent to me today thought you might find some insight in
it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "The final lesson is about the true meaning of love. I have said
> >> >> before And yet the true
> >> >> experience of love is beyond anything you can now imagine. It
is
> beyond
> >> >> the thought or the idea of love. It lies past all the images
and
> >> >> symbols you have made to obscure love's call. And yet it is
closer
> than
> >> >> you know, closer than your breath or even the silent whisper
of love's
> >> >> longing for itself. And what is the secret that love has
whispered
> into
> >> >> your half-closed ear, the distant echo that has haunted you
so? Only
> >> >> this: You are the very essence of Love. This very monent,
just as you
> >> >> are, in spite of all the preconceived ideas you have of
yourself, love
> >> >> claims and accepts you.
> >> >>
> >> >> "You have forgotten who you are because in your fear of
losing love
> >> >> you have witheld that which is your foundation. Love by its
very
> nature
> >> >> is a gift that is freely given. And yet this gift is known
only as it
> >> >> is given again. Only when love is breathed from one heart to
another
> is
> >> >> it fully experienced. When love is witheld, it is forgotten,
and
> >> >> because you and love were born together, you are forgotten
with her.
> >> >> She lies hidden within you beside the still forgotten memory
of your
> >> >> truest Self. Though asleep and dreaming, she awaits the dawn
when her
> >> >> name is called and she is again brought back to life. And the
> awakening
> >> >> of love is your awakening as well, so intimately linked, all
from
> giving
> >> >> freely that which you are: the full awareness of love's
presence. But
> >> >> this awakening requires that you willingly give up all the
ways you
> have
> >> >> tried to limit and contain her. You cannot guide love's path,
but if
> >> >> you submit to love's truer vision she will guide you, showing
you a
> new
> >> >> vision of yourself.
> >> >>
> >> >> "True, or unconditional, love is unaware of the strange
demands you
> >> >> impose on your relationships. Love is the same for all. Your
> attempts
> >> >> to reserve love for specific relationships and then withold it
from
> >> >> others is the very thing that has blocked your vision of love's
> >> >> presence. Give as love gives -- just as the sun who gives its
light
> to
> >> >> all who ask, or the sparrow who sings not for the one who
listens, but
> >> >> for the song itself. When you give love, love is your reward.
When
> you
> >> >> judge some people as worthy of your giving and other people as
> >> >> undeserving, then it is you who is undeserving; not because
you have
> >> >> been judged by love but because you have forgotten love's law.
> >> >>
> >> >> "You, in your essence, are the fountain of unconditional
love. The
> >> >> water you give refreshes the whole universe, for you are not
seperate
> >> >> from one part of the universe but intimately linked to all.
Let your
> >> >> gift be free, then. Let it flow from you and wash over all
those you
> >> >> see, all those who cross your path. Do not think that you
cannot
> still
> >> >> have relationships that are more involved than others.
Involvement
> has
> >> >> nothing to do with love. There will always be those in your
life with
> >> >> whom you share the deeper pulse of your thoughts and those
whom you do
> >> >> not. But the love you give is the same for each of them. It
is but
> the
> >> >> recognition of the very same life of which you are continually
reborn.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Love is a knowing; a pure understanding. It knows that
all things
> >> >> are whole, regardless of their appearance of delusion, and it
gives of
> >> >> itself wholly, without judgement, without recognizing the
difference
> >> >> between this relationship and that. It understands that there
is only
> >> >> one real relationship and it is the one we all share, the Self
that is
> >> >> beyond the thought or the idea of Love, the holy encounter of
life
> with
> >> >> life. The secret of unconditional love is that we are all the
same,
> >> >> holy beyond imagination. This is what the release of fear
reveals.
> >> >> This is what you are all looking for. And this is what you
will find
> >> >> when you open your heart to every element of creation."
> >> >>
> >> >> We all sat there for a very long time without saying a
word. The
> >> >> silence was overwhelming. I looked up at Teacher and thought I
> noticed
> >> >> a change. His face began to glow, I was sure of it. The Light
> radiated
> >> >> from him and all around him. Then it extended to include all
of us.
> We
> >> >> were engulfed in the Light. I cannot describe what this was
like
> >> >> because it was beyond anything the world can understand.
Several of
> the
> >> >> women and attendants stood up from their chairs. One of them
started
> >> >> jumping up in the air, and another began laughing out loud.
Soon we
>
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