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Recieved: 1999/02/02 21:15
Subject: RE: [K-list] Reincarnation and Karma
From: jb
On 1999/02/02 21:15, jb posted thus to the K-list:
Charles:
> I don't know whether those of you in the US have heard, but the manager of
> the England soccer team ( and we're talking the national sport here) has
> been sacked for saying in an interview that he believes in reincarnation
> and karma. Is this common in other countries.
Jan: It can happen in many countries. Eventually, another reason for sacking
is given to avoid accusations of discrimination.
Charles:
> On another thread, thank you to everyone who helped me with their thoughts
> on K and relationships, and especially to those who mentioned the
> deity. As
> someone who is struggling with the question of whether God exists, and if
> he/she does, then what the implication is for me, I would appreciate some
> contributions about what she/he means to you.
Jan:
It reminds me of my youth. I was a rather mischievous boy and when the
teacher told about God's punishment, knowing God to exist would have meant
asking forgiveness from the "victims" and the end of all practical jokes.
The teacher also taught us, God was all mercy, but would send thunder and
lightning when we dared to open our eyes during prayer. Combining the two, I
considered taking the risk would at least prove God´s existence. Much to my
disappointment, nothing happened and what was worse, the teacher was looking
around also, violating his "own" rule. He punished me. So I concluded there
was no God.
Some eighteen years later, quite unexpectedly, came the moment of
recognizing my "real nature"; the answer to the (never posed by me)
question "who am I". This, in its turn, triggered the rise of K., burning
away all distinction between the "real nature" and "world". How to name (or
not to name at all) this "real nature" is a different matter.
What you could do is read the Upanishads; it will convey insight into Self
or God. Alternatively, you could read Buddhist sutras; it will convey
insight into Void or no-self. Then, consider meditation in the various
disciplines and decide what fits you best. Your "real nature" won't be
affected by your choice :>)
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