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Recieved: 1999/01/22 05:23
Subject: Re: [K-list] A further question from a new participant
From: Timera
On 1999/01/22 05:23, Timera posted thus to the K-list:
Hi Charles
Being still new on this list I probably shouldn't answer this post, but let
me just say a few things.
It wasn't easy for me to realize that knowledge and IQ really mean nothing.
It hurts to let go of the things that we thought all our lives are the
things that validate our selves. English is not my mother tongue and I
probably didn't say that well. I mean that all my life I thought that my
knowledge and my IQ and my generally being 'good' were what made me a
valuable person. I had no spiritual awareness whatsoever.
That's what I belive K and this list is all about. Spiritual awareness.
Awakening to my Higher Self. It is not about how I interact with other
people on whichever level, but how I interact with my Self. Finding out the
truth about my Self, about who or what i really am. Finding out that my
achievements are only that, achievements in this very limited physical life.
They are not 'me' at all. Finding out that I was created beautiful and
perfect. Relationships with other people will then take care of themselves.
Relationships with other people can never be fulfilling. The only
relationship that is fulfilling is the relationship with my Self, my Higher
Self. To have a relationship with the Cosmic Consciousness is more than
fulfilling. It is pure bliss and addictive, I'm afraid.
Emptying myself of the self that I always thought I am, so that I can then
be filled by the Creator - It's a task that looked impossible to me just a
short while ago, and it was so frought with misunderstandings that I'm now
appalled at my stupidity. And as you can see from this patronizing letter, I
haven't come very far yet ;)
I know nothing about you and where you stand, what your experiences are, and
yet I persume to know something and to give advise - back to basics, Alice
;)
It's interesting that you would say:
>I've not been receiving long enough to hear the other stuff,
Can you see any other meaning in that sentence than the one you meant?
>From your first post and this post I gather that you are not K active, but
consider trying to force it. My advise is: Don't! Not before you have more
information about it, and not without guidance and long preparation. K is
not psycho therapie. At least not in the sense that you imagine. You cannot
chose which areas of your life you want to improve and K will then gently
oblige. No, K will blaze it's way through any obstructions and like a thing
with it's own mind follow it's own purpose of connecting you, your soul with
the Supreme Intelligence. It will take you home. This can be a very painful
and dangerous process.
K probably IS the answer to everything, but not the answer you seem to
expect.
You say:
>Does this mean I have to continue my search for like minded people?
I say, No, stop that search and start the search for your Self :-)
If asked: Who are you? What will you answer?
I see nobody else answering your post, so I do, but please take this for
what it is: The personal, somwhat romantic opinion of a newbie :-)))
Blessings, Alice
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Vermont <FunchoiceATnospambtinternet.com>
To: kundalini list <kundaliniATnospamList-Server.net>
Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 3:16 AM
Subject: [K-list] A further question from a new participant
>Thank you to everyone who replied to my last post - however, I'm a
>concerned that I didn't make myself clear and wasn't sufficiently specific.
>
>What interests me is whether Kundalini can help me to achieve greater
>fulfillment in my relationships with other people. I've come across many
>'spiritual' groups where it seems to me the object is to feel good about
>myself because I know more than other people and I can take a patronising
>attitude towards them. I haven't noticed this on this list, but I've not
>come across much to do with the way you relate to other people. Perhaps
>I've not been receiving long enough to hear the other stuff, but I would
>appreciate some help with this one.
>
>I believe the lessons I want to learn in this life are about the way I
>interact with other people on an emotional, personal, and ethical level.
>
>Does this mean I have to continue my search for like minded people?
>
>Charles Vermont
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