To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/01/20 05:14
Subject: [K-list] Re: counting the silly mutant Boddhisatva boogerheads.
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 1999/01/20 05:14, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 01:50 AM 20/01/99 -0800, Wim Borsboom wrote:
>Dear Angelique
>I was ONE of those two silly ducklings... Freda was one, I was the other.
>You might not have picked that up from the first post under that subject
>title (Jan 12).
Yes, and I am One of the Boogerheads.. you might not have picked up on
that.
>If we would read less from in between the lines, we may see some humour in
>unexpected places, like.... in the words themselves.
Or in the author.
>A simple misinterpretation can easily take on momentum and before one knows
>one writes a reply such as yours. :-) and.... one sends it to boot.
If one is fortunate to be so wise and witty as to compose such a reply.
Not to mention remarkably gifted, amazingly intelligent, and with
exceptional legs..
>Which reply, by the way, I read with increasing interest, surprise and
mirth.
Good!! It was designed to provoke such a response. The response
increases, each time it is read.. cumulative. I have read it about a dozen
times and am at the point of falling off my chair laughing.
If you had read it a few more times, and read everything else that is
between the lines, you would not have felt the need to write this post in
your own defense.
>Which reply, by the way, I may also very easily have misunderstood.
Which you apparently did misunderstand, coz you are demonstrating a
desire to be my guru, again... and attempting to defend yourself where no
attack is present.
>Sure, I write strongly and directly, some list members told me.
>Dutch trait, me blockhead me.
>Others told me that I write com-passionately.
>Not a Dutch trait that.
Do you base your opinions of yourself on what is said of you? On whether
you fit into the pigeonholes of culture? Why? Do you think that is what you
are?
>Others wrote me to stop writing. Circuitousness makes them dizzy.
>So much for a Dutch treat then.
Mebbie they just see futility in travelling in a circle? They don't wanna
spend time in a hamster wheel?
My own post made me much dizzier, writing it, than any of yours.. at one
point my trains of thought crashed and burned, along with the whole
universe and and there was only Om..
I really don't expect any responses to it.. it was a thread in itself. A
completed circle.. several circles, actually, looping in spirals.. about 3
1/2 times.. ;)
>
>Am I offended? Of course not. Do I learn....yes a lot. Does that show? I
>cannot know that. Nor can I worry about that because what is seen depends
>so much on the viewer.
If you are not concerned about the viewer's response, then why post? Why
attempt to communicate at all?
>I have myself to go by,
They why are you commenting to describe yourself, using what others say
of you?
> and I have learned not to feel inadequate about
>myself. My life will fall in place in due time.
>It is very easy to interpret this sentence the wrong way, so try this: What
>if you would have written it? It does make sense then, does it not ?
I did not write it. you did. That is what Is. Here and now.
Why play with "what if?"
Why postpone your life falling into place? What part of it is inadequate
enough to need shaking up, so that it falls into place at some point in the
indefinable non-existent future?
>Reading with empathy turns into understanding.
Good! Read my post again a few times, with empathy.
>Understanding with sympathy becomes recognition.
Sympathy I don't want. Sympathy is judgment. One step above pity, which
is a sugar coated form of scorn and hubris.
>If the beginnings of recognition are not present, then reading will only
>turn into "interpretation" which, by definition, is subjective.
The entire universe is subjective. The only objectivity comes from
Spirit, and Spirit thinks it's all equally hilarious, and doesn't judge at
all.
> What is
>"understood" by the reader may very well mean the opposite of what was
>"meant" by the writer.
No, over all, I think my expectations that you would understand me, or at
least that you would not be hurt or take offense, were correct. I chose my
target carefully..;) I gave circuitousness to someone who appeared to enjoy
it. I would not give contradictions to someone who I thought wouldn't
appreciate them. I am artistic snob, that way.
You are simply not accustomed to circuitousness aimed your way for a
change..:) and are uncertain how to react.. which is also as I wanted.
Thankyou for the game. (bowing)
>
>You wrote:
>>I postponed sending it so I could look at it in the clear light of day and
>>see if it makes sense, or if I'm raving. The answer is Yes.
>
>:-) Does your "Yes" above answer the "raving" or the "making sense" part of
>that sentence. Ah English... :-) The ambiguities of language, any
>language!!!
There is no ambiguity, if you read it with the right part of your being.
Empathy.
Or, you can judge it. What do you think? Am I raving or making sense?
Why can I not do both at once?
>Try my native language, it is not for nothing called double Dutch.
No, thanks..
>>You are not annoying enough to provoke my anger.. almost nothing is.. but
>>the lull in list traffic might have something to do with folks not wanting
>>to be non-consensually mocked for their issues by Wim the Wanna-be...
>>Course, it could also be the normal after-solstice downtime. More likely,
>>but what the heck.. I'll blame it all on you, I'm sure you can "handle"
>it......
>
>And I can, because that very thing "blame" is illusion. It carries very
>little weight, if any weight at all.
I know you can, or I'd not have sent the post. I said the blame was
illusion, so why do you defend your self against it?
>
>>Silly me.. talk is cheap, I look at what people do, to find the truth in
>them.
>
>Problem with e-mail is, it is all words, no body language, except for some
>smileys and ROTFL's. Not much more to look at but letters and white space
>in between.
Bullshit. Roll in it and see if it sticks. ;)
Other lists, maybe that is all folks are getting.. but this one??..
LOL!! No, there is a whole lot more information coded into the energy of an
email, than the possibly circuitous words can convey.
In any case, continuing the plague of attachments so long as you did, was
action plain to see. Choosing to post at all is action, so is choosing to
contradict people for the heck of it after they have asked you to stop.
>>IS IT (?) our world, where fright and fear, pain and anger, threats of
>negativity take on the *appearance* of reality, more convincing than love
>and understanding?
>It would be a sorry world if we were to treat nagativity (sic) as reality;
Uh.. are you sure you read the post you are responding to???
>Not us... Beings.
>The interpretations you made about me and what I write were quite
>unfortunate, but your writing is very much appreciated.
Why are they unfortunate if they were appreciated?
>
>Negatives are illusive, they also appear where they are not, do not treat
>them as real (I don't), that would be suffering. Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara
>says so. grin :-)
My negatives were illusive, I said so right in the post. They appeared
where they were not.
Mebbie you didn't read it that far??
So if they really are illusive to you, why did you treat them as real
enough to think you needed to defend yourself against them? If they are
illusive, then why are they unfortunate?
>Everything that is here now is truth.
If you believe that, then why are you speaking about untruth? Partial
truth? Illusion? Why did you not understand < A or B = Yes.>? Yes I am
raving and Yes I am making sense.
please explain, o wise one..;)
(Annie Lennox singing like an angel on the stereo:
"I used to have demons, in my room at night.. desire, despair, desire...
so many monsters.. Oh, but now.. No more I love you's.. language is leaving
me.. No more I love you's.. language is leaving me in silence.. )
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