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Recieved: 1999/01/12 05:40
Subject: Re: [K-list] Mr. Sweet & Clean was (Symptoms.... than
From: freda


On 1999/01/12 05:40, freda posted thus to the K-list:

Wim Borsboom wrote:
>
>Oh no wait, what was that? Were we just taking death very seriously?
> >
Nice lecture Wim,
Still, however you white-wash it... death of this body..
in this life... ends this lifetime...
wheather there be other lifetimes in-the-wait or not...

>Death by definition does not exist.
>Sure we know about earthly remains and skeletons, but deadness *the non
>existence of existence* cannot exist can it?
depends on what definition you refere to.
I can asure you grampa is no fun on a fishing outing anymore..... he IS
dead

>It is *some-kind-of-fear* that does it... giving illusive substance to
>nothing.
fear? I did mention fear? I know fear, very well.
I don't fear death, but I do have an appriciation for life
I am not foolish enough to think grampa would have lived forever,
after all he did not expect to himself...
I remember he told me of death when my horse died,
there was no fear in his telling, I dont think he feared death either
and when his death was near he spoke of his eagerness to move on
and comforted my gramma in her fears...
He did not however praise the suffering of what killed his body,
there is no doubt the disease ate his body,
the question is what caused the disease, could it have been prevented?
and would he have taken steps to avoid - if possible - the onset of the
disease.
I beleive he would have, he often spoke of the body being "the temple of
god"
and he lived his life accordingly.

I was not addressing fear of death, but you are.
Perhaps you speak here of your fear of death?
 
>All the realms are inhabited with life... yes reality all over... where
>love reigns or is so damnedly and illusively missed there is...reality.

I am addressing being informed and making choices
which may improve the quality of life, this life, in this body, this
reality...

>Do not say that all that is illusion as well, only illusion is >illusion.
>You are not, are you?

No, *I* am not. Speaking in circles makes me dizzy.

>If in whatever you just answered was the word I (however timidly), you >just proved your reality.

I wasnt questioning my reality, were you?
I assure you I am real~ in my reality.

freda

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