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Recieved: 1999/01/11 15:36
Subject: RE: [K-list]Siddha, Kriya and Kundalini Yogas
From: Munagala Neeladrirao

I perfectly agree with you. In the "end" all paths are left beyond.

But, what about getting to the "end"? It needs a significant discipline
and positive guidance of a Satguru to lead somebody on the path. My
point is that as far as Sadhana is considered there is very little
guidance required from the Guru in case of Siddha Yoga and so is the
Safest and most effective of all. Of course, there is no difference
between the inner Self and a Sadguru, when it comes to directing the
Sadhana. But, in case of other Yoga's, where instructing and
understanding & following the instructions of the Guru are necessitated,
the Sadhana may not be as safe or as effective.

In your case you could succeed through your Prnayama practices. In
Siddha Yoga, it is a converse process - you are "blessed" and the Shakti
will spontaneously cause Pranayama in you amongst other experiences.
Pranayama through effort or guidance of a half-baked Guru may not only
be ineffective, but may be dangerous. Same is the case with other
"practices" such as meditation, worship, Asanas or Mantra-Japa.

But, all said and done, as you have said, goal and so the end is same
for all Yoga Sadhanas and the variations in the paths make little
difference.

>From: "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
>To: "'Munagala Neeladrirao'" <neeladri_raoATnospamhotmail.com>,
<fisher1ATnospamstic.net>
>Cc: <kundaliniATnospamList-Server.net>
>Subject: RE: [K-list]Siddha, Kriya and Kundalini Yogas
>Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:12:28 -0500
>
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>[mailto:owner-kundaliniATnospamList-Server.net] On Behalf Of Munagala
Neeladrirao
>Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 1:47 PM
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>Subject: Re: [K-list]Siddha, Kriya and Kundalini Yogas
>
>Thanks for your mail.
>
>I have read many of Muktananda's books. As per the Kashmir Saivism that
>he preaches, Guru should be meditated upon as he is identical to
Supreme
>Parashiva. In Siddha Yoga, the Guru once initiates the aspirant, his
>direct spiritual guidance is no longer necessary as the Shakti plays a
>perfect Guru's role in guiding the Sadhaka on his path. This
>Shakti-guidence continues beyond births and directing the Sadhaka to
>higher and higher realizations.
>
>But, in case of Kundalini Yoga, and Kriya Yoga, a CONSCIUS and DIRECT
>guidance of the Guru is indispensable for the reason that these Yogas
>are not spontaneous.
>
>Harsha: Only if you define "spontaneous" very narrowly. It is my
experience
>that in the end all definitions, concepts, and various approaches
(Siddha
>Yoga, Kriya Yoga, Sahaj Yoga, etc. are left behind and make little
>difference. My own path (started 34 years ago) involved direct arousal
of
>the Kundalini Shakti through Bhastrika Pranayama, Bandhas, and Mudras
along
>with prolonged Meditations on the energy centers. But the arousal of
the
>Shakti is one thing. Her Joining and Merging with the Divine Source
which
>results in Enlightenment is another. Only when all seeking is given up
and
>with complete purity of mind one surrenders (the mind) to the Divine
>(unconditionally) does the Kundalini Shakti go straight and Merge in
the
>Self and reveals God Consciousness in the Center of the Self. Some
Great
>Souls who have extra-ordinary purity of mind, spontaneously drive the
>"Thought Force" inherent in the conscious mind, (through self- inquiry,
>contemplation or prayer) deeper and deeper and realize directly the
Divinity
>in their Heart. On this path, the massive force of the Unconscious Mind
is
>not directly activated at the beginning of the spiritual journey. In
such
>Sages the Classical Kundalini manifestations may (or may not) happen
after
>they have realized the essential Truth of Existence in their own Being.
>Kundalini Yoga is one path to enlightenment but it also creates much
>confusion among people. The ultimate goal of all Yogas and Tantras is
to
>recognize that the "Peace that Passeth all Understanding" is within us
and
>it is our Real Nature or Original Nature. One goes through all the
hoopla
>only to come face with One's Own Self!
>
>
>

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