1998/09/23 11:57
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #674
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 674
Today's Topics:
Verse V [ nannuATnospamcombase.com ]
Re: Re: prana and kundalini and anim [ "Mel August" <bodacia31ATnospamhotmail.com ]
Re: Fwd: keep passin it on..] [ "Mel August" <bodacia31ATnospamhotmail.com ]
Re: P,K,K9 [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
unsubscribe [ yellATnospamaltavista.net ]
Re: P,K,K9 [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
Re: to list [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
Re: Earth, sun and intention [ "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.c ]
Re: P,K,K9 [ Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz> ]
[firefly] overheard in the company o [ Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich ]
Re: [firefly] overheard in the compa [ v <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Re: evidence II [ Mike <Michael.GoodwinATnospamjcu.edu.au> ]
Re: Memoirs of my Mental Illness [ Mike <Michael.GoodwinATnospamjcu.edu.au> ]
Re: Memoirs of my Mental Illness [ Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net ]
Re: [firefly] overheard in the compa [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re:beware spooky dream kundalini ris [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Atheism [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
spirits,soul.......... [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.i ]
Re: beware spooky dream kundalini ri [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
ce [ Zarko Kecman <icemanATnospaminecco.net> ]
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:21:18 -0500
From: nannuATnospamcombase.com
To: "Kundalini-l" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Verse V
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THE WAY TO SELF-KNOWLEDGE (V. V)
Begin your practice and reform
With firm resolve and trust in God,
Have no desire to take by storm
The gate to Heaven or ride roughshod.
The morning hours before sunrise,
While most of us are still asleep,
Provide the best time for the wise
To engage in meditation deep.
Start with shorter spans of time,
Say fifteen minutes and no more,
Evoke an image most sublime,
Of Godhead or the other Shore,
And keep your mind immovably fixed
On this auspicious picture till
You can keep it, pure and unmixed,
With modest efforts of your will.
But do not fret nor lose your heart
Should mind your gentle press resist
With calm composure make a start
Again and, in this way, persist
Sit cross-legged, with your back erect
Using a posture which is good,
Convenient easy to effect
And helpful to a peaceful mood.
Have no fear that the mental state
To be imagined is not known
To you. Persist and soon or late
The doorway open will be thrown.
It is an error to suppose,
That 'tis our will that moulds the brain,
Or how we sit or keep our pose,
Or how we for this Kingdom train.
All that is needed from our part
Is truth, devotion, self-reform,
Love, humbleness, a feeling heart
And to this rule we must conform.
The rest is done by Laws Divine,
Where human will can have no hand,
Here it is futile to opine,
For all now happens by command.
That is why all religious lore
Has been held sacred all along,
For here we touch the other Shore,
Where intellect can guide us wrong.
Submission to the Will Divine,
Restrained ambition and desire,
Abstention from drugs, smoke and wine,
Subdual of the camal fire,
Detachment to keep one's self free
And not allow the mind to drown
Deep in the world or from it flee,
Nor soaring high nor sinking down
In hard search of the Golden Mean
Firm in reform, in practice sure,
In judgment fair and dealings clean,
Of honest aims and motives pure,
The seeker who aspires to God
Or hallowed states of Consciousness
Must plain and humble, like to sod,
Undaunted by reverses, press
With cautious steps towards his goal,
Regardless of the hazards met
Until the Glory of the Soul
Shines to make him his woes forget
Wafting him to a glorious plane,
Resplendent as the noonday sun,
Immune to death, distress and pain,
The friend of all and foe to none,
A fabulous inner paradise,
Where he may bloom into a sage,
Inspired, clairvoyant prescient wise,
A star-performer of his age.
Whene'er you have some vacant time,
Either in office or at home
Think calmly of the state sublime
Or silent chant the Mantra "OM".
For a few minutes at a time
To keep the fickle mind alert
To your religious duty prime,
One's own Divinity to assert.
And keep the height you try to win
In mind a few times every day,
So that you may the climb begin
By easy stages all the way.
Combined with early morning spell
Of meditation, it will prove
A boon to make you progress well,
And, done with faith, can mountains move.
Take care not to fatigue the brain
Which may lead to more harm than good,
But if this happens first regain,
By rest and calm, the buoyant mood.
E'en when you slow down or relax,
Do not omit to serve the Lord,
But in this, too, you should not tax
Your body too much or too hard.
Make doubly certain that your pace
Is neither too fast nor too slow,
If you succeed in this, your face
With health and happiness should glow.
Remember that a gentle rise
Is more congenial for the brain,
You have more chance to win the prize
If you with moderation train.
Be mindful, when you start this Quest
That moderation is the key
In food and drink, in sport and rest
In work and sleep that sets us free.
The need for caution lies in this:
Here we experiment with brain,
And if one is the least remiss
He never may his health regain.
At this point it is good to know
That our desire to win to God
Does not from superstition grow
Nor from a whim nor fancy odd.
But from our Maker's gracious Plan
To upgrade our still evolving brain
For better to change the Life of Man
Perennial peace and joy to gain.
And that is why religion came
On this ascent to be our guide,
Our passions and desires to tame,
And help us climb with measured stride.
That is why people stand in need
Of discipline of both the mind
And body, also thought and deed,
To tread with care the path aligned.
The earth is ailing, water sick,
And nations on the brink of war,
Air with the fumes of poison thick,
Because mankind has wandered far
>From her Divinely ordered route,
In search of pleasure, wealth and ease,
Her passions and desires to suit,
Her fancies and her whims to please.
Because out of the learned ranks,
Misguided by the intellect,
Dissension from some of the cranks
The prestige of religion wreckt
That is why all act as they like,
Encouraging hedonistic trends,
Why nature is now poised to strike
Unless this mad rebellion ends.
Nor scholars nor philosophers
Can now make much of what I write,
But world conditions growing worse
Will bring the Truth I preach to light
The Way to God which I describe
Is not new but an ancient one,
Which all the faiths of earth prescribe,
With here and there some pruning done,
To suit the climate of our day,
The fast and hectic life we lead,
The importunate will lose the way
If they do not the warnings heed.
For some time past, it sure has been
A great misfortune for mankind,
For able minds themselves to preen
On a few secrets they could find
Denying nature e'en a bit
Of credit for the intelligence
About which they know not a whit,
Save what is plain to commonsense.
This is the first time, when they will
Know more about the realm of mind,
And, lost in wonder, use their skill
More and more of this world to find.
0, noble spirits whose heart aches,
Sore at the thought of woes to come,
You know full well what are the stakes
If we allow the quarrelsome,
Ambitious heads to have their way,
What devastation will be done,
What millions will the weapons slay,
With all-round loss and profit none.
This is the time, when you can serve
The cause of mankind and the Lord,
If you your energies conserve
To spread this ancient Truth abroad,
And help aspirants know the way
To use these methods, at their choice,
Keep at their practice every day
Till they in their success rejoice.
These disciplines will help improve
Their health, ability and worth
The great Truths of religion prove
And make their life a heaven on earth.
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:36:33 PDT
From: "Mel August" <bodacia31ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com
Subject: Re: Re: prana and kundalini and animals as teachers
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>>What is your take on Lemmings? Or whales that beach themselves?
>
>Dear Mel: thoughts occur, like maybe the lemmings know it is in their
>highest good, to allow their numbers to do the right thing and allow
>their cycle of procreation to complete itself (innately, like all have
>the inner knowledge and drive to procreate).
>As for the whales, I don't know what it's worth, but I picked up that
>they might be trying to draw attention to their own pain, whether it be
>from the loss of a mate or destruction of their environment. I'll try
a
>communication if you really want an answer. much love and great light
>to you, katrina
Katrina...
If you would...I would love to know.
blessings...
Bodacia
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:55:08 PDT
From: "Mel August" <bodacia31ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, fvelezATnospamcititran.com, lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com
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>
>>> To handle yourself, use your head;
>>> To handle others, use your heart.
>
>
>To handle God . . . forget it - you can't . . .
Gotta disagree there...I handle her all the time. : )
>
>An orgasm is precious
>. . . so we let it go . . .
>
>
>Please pass on this cookie fortune wisdom
>You might call it your 'spirituality'
>and impress others with wisdom
>Or you might grow up a little and search for Real Wisdom
>
>
>Be Well
>Confucius Lobster
>
>
Ah Lobster...
It is a wise one who lives to make others laugh! thanks : )
blessed be...
Bodacia
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:42:57 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: P,K,K9
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Hi Anurag,
>Yes, I too felt that save the life of insects by driving them
>away rather than killing it.
In most cases this is my reactions. Cannot understand why this is so
important to me but it has been.
>
>But i was thinking wat to do abt the ant which has been unknowingly
>seriously injured by us. One who is no longer able to walk. Wat to do with
>that?
I'm afraid my answer to this may not be to your liking. In the insect world
as well as the animal world nature is tough. If an insect is injured the
best thing IMHO would be to kill it instantly. Why let it suffer?
Sometimes I think Animals have a better understanding of death then we do.
In L&L & Understanding,
Kat
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:49:03 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:48:39 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <PamENixonATnospamaol.com>
Cc: <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: P,K,K9
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Hi Pam,
><< My ex boyfriend thought I was overdoing it when it came to the insects
and
> my ex husband just laughed his head off and killed different insects right
> in front of me after I had tried to spare their lifes. >>
>
>I'm glad he is an "ex!" No compassion!
I am too!!! I am only beginning to get to the surface of the damage that
was done in this 21 year relationship.....or was the 22??? already starting
to forget must be another sign of old age! <grin>
Yet the strange thing is that I have just recently developed a form of
communication with him that I believe will be a healing for our entire
family.
In L&L & Understanding,
Kat
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 21:28:12 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: to list
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Hi Barbara,
> A lot of strange things are happening. It could be my server. It's
>been down a lot lately. It could be my computer. It is very
>temperamental at times. It could be me.
Look for the logical reasons first......as I suspect you already
have....next most important thing is not to let anyone try to convince you
that it is not happening! You know it is.
I've been messing up electronic
>equipment lately, elevator doors, my computer, answering machines.....
>I'm getting strange flashes of light inside the front of my head, seeing
>specks of light around electrical stuff, and seeing energy fields around
>things including my hands.
I have seen these lights as well. Tell me do you see the colour of blue in
these lights as well?
> One last statement about my grandson, he'll be leaving the hospital
>with his finger still attached.
That is fantastic news!
>Much thanks and love to all that helped make that possible.
> It is probably best if I unsubscribe for awhile until I get these
>strange happenings worked out.
If this is what you need to do than do it but if you are doing this because
you are worried about all the effects that are going on around you this is
the time to chat with the people on this list. I cannot tell you how much
it has helped me the amount of support that I have recieved from here when
others thought that I was not being logical enough!
In L&L & Understanding,
Kat
In L&L & Understanding,
Kat
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:32:22 PDT
From: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Earth, sun and intention
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Just returned from dinner, and Guy proofread what I wrote, and there is
one major typo:
>For it is our divine selves who combine the love of the mother (earth)
>with energy from the father (moon)
was supposed to read: with energy from the father (sun)... which
explained the heading I originally sent with the piece. Sorry for any
confusion this causes. katrina
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:42:03 +1200
From: Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: P,K,K9
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Is it not karma to kill and know that you are killing, it may not alot of
karma but it all adds up in the end. Pleading ignorance goes only so far,
you still suffer some karma.
This is just my opinion but I feel we have no right to kill wether it be
for good or evil.
I understand in humans some of do suffer due to injury because of karma and
if someone does put us out of misery then we are born again and suffer
further because we couldn't finish off the karma in the last life due
someone interfering.
For example, there is a story of an arabian bandit who took out the eyes of
the travellers he robbed, in the next life he was born blind so as to
experience and understand what he did in the past life. Ofcourse in the
present life he will not realise that is why he is blind, but when he
returns to the spirit world, he will remember everything and note down his
experiences.
If you like more real life example, that would be me(no I am not blind)
Charan
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:59:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: [firefly] overheard in the company of a pale mathematician (fwd)
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With all due respect to the injured insects I have killed (and their loved
ones), I personally spend more time calibrating my energy to deal with
people such as the one quoted below by the participant of a different
mailing list that I'm on. Warning: Adult language!
______
It is truly stupendous what some
people will say (and loudly) when intoxicated. A quote from a nearby future
business schooler (and no, I'm not surmising, the guy informed the assembled of
his plans):
"I told that bitch to get lost because she was getting fat. I don't want to be
seen with some fat bitch. Makes me sick. Makes me look bad. I told her to get
to the gym and take a little pride in herself. Speaking of that, I have to
remember to get that tanning appointment tomorrow. I've got to keep it
looking good. You've got to be the shit, man, and I'm going to be the shit, and
I don't care who I have to step on to get the house, and the car, and the
princess. I like to be out there on the field, asserting myself, kicking ass.
I like to get the princess. I want to suffer and then to win win win."
_
...and now back to your regularly scheduled de-programming...
Love,
Andy
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:09:52 -0800
From: v <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: [firefly] overheard in the company of a pale mathematician (fwd)
Message-ID: <36087483.46CEATnospamptialaska.net>
hey!
even insects need *love* too!
*lolol*
i sure hope my lawyer is in league with everybody else's lawyers!
:)
vc
<snip>
> ...and now back to your regularly scheduled de-programming...
>
> Love,
> Andy
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:52:36 +1000 (EST)
From: Mike <Michael.GoodwinATnospamjcu.edu.au>
To: Antoine Carre <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca>,
Kundalini Group <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
B-II <Bradley.SpeechleyATnospamjcu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: evidence II
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What is the reference to the Fall? the Redemption? Is that biblical? Does
that seem to be relevant here?
+ Mike ++
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
[art-mjg4ATnospamJCU.edu.au]
Department of Psychology
James Cook University
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:02:46 +1000 (EST)
From: Mike <Michael.GoodwinATnospamjcu.edu.au>
To: YahseyesATnospamaol.com, B-II <Bradley.SpeechleyATnospamjcu.edu.au>,
Kundalini Group <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Memoirs of my Mental Illness
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> "...validated by its opposite, which is a perfectly diametrically
> opposed "right"
> thing. A complete one to one balance in the universe of all. Taking away the
> values of "right" "wrong", "good, "bad", etc and looking at it only as
> opposites, "plus" to "minus", this kind of makes sense. After all, electricity
> does work. Being a number person and taking as truth the reality than
> anything can be reflected as a number(s) (including the number itself...hmm),
> and that chaos = plus and minus pi, and order and being = all other numbers
> (+ and -) except zero, and zero = the symbol of "not being", things do seem to
> hold together.
Very eloquent way of putting it!
> So my drawn out question to the list, (sorry list), which one is correct; is
> there only one reality and one truth for all everywhere and forever, OR is
> every truth balanced by its perfect untruth, and really only relative to the
> observer?
The latter, I think. Arrghhh! No, both. No, hold on! I may have it. There
is one truth which is _interpreted_ (ie transduced) by each separate
observer in their own unique way. None of them can ever view it the same
as the next unless they are that other person. In addition, They cannot
view the REAL Truth unless they are the MAKER of that Truth. Make sense?
That's kinda how I see it anyway.
> A second question, if all is balanced by it's (dualality) opposite, then the
> universe would be at a state of perfect rest, EG -> dead. For the absolute
> (God) to manifest in matter, there would have to be a unique point of "no
> opposite" (the number 0 does not have an opposite) in order to experience
> action and imbalance with the desire toward balance being a never ending
> activity. It would then be imperative that this imbalance never be balanced
> because the attainment of equalibrium would equate to God destroying God.
Nice. Very nice.
> Our
> goal and purpose in life as concious manifestations of God then becomes to
> make absolutely certain that in the eternal war of good versus evil, it is
> imperative that neither side wins.???
IS there an eternal good vs evil war? I'm an optimist but I'm not sure
good is vs evil. There ARE good things and bad things but you blend them
and the world is grey. The WORLD is objective. Impartial. It doesn't care
whether you live or die, how you live, how you die. Look at the wild
beasts and the struggle for survival. Maybe the only reason why we sit
around thinking these thoughts is because we have the room to do so. If we
were fighting each day for our survival (as the animals are) we wouldn't
have time to ponder our navel.
> Given the above, is this what is meant by the illusion of the opposites and if
> so, where is the non-illusion?
Whats is this concept? Good question
+ Mike ++
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
[art-mjg4ATnospamJCU.edu.au]
Department of Psychology
James Cook University
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 98 07:52:42 -0400
From: Marybeth Gottshall <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>
To: "Mike" <Michael.GoodwinATnospamjcu.edu.au>
cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Memoirs of my Mental Illness
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Hi, Mike
>
>The latter, I think. Arrghhh! No, both. No, hold on! I may have it. There
>is one truth which is _interpreted_ (ie transduced) by each separate
>observer in their own unique way. None of them can ever view it the same
>as the next unless they are that other person. In addition, They cannot
>view the REAL Truth unless they are the MAKER of that Truth. Make sense?
>That's kinda how I see it anyway.
Oooowwwwwieeeee! This is makin' my head hurt! We all create our own
reality, yet there is only one ultimate reality, right? I think I get it.
I'm going to give some very loose (remembered) quotes here. If anyone
absolutely NEEDS to have them verbatim, I suppose I could look them up.
Innayat Khan, big Sufi dude, said (approximately) that the most important
thing that a person must do is to create their own version of God and
then to worship that.
The Dalai Lama said (approximately) that a person must choose the
religion that they are most comfortable with, that allows them most fully
to progress on their own spiritual path.
I especially like the Innayat Khan quote, because it implies that we are
creators of our own reality. The Dalai Lama statement, to me, implies
that there is one reality, but many approaches, or interpretations.
So there you have my two cents worth addition to that part of the
discussion.
> You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
>
Nuh-uh. I have my own voices, thanks.
Love, Marybeth
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:14:26 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich.edu>,
kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: [firefly] overheard in the company of a pale mathematician (fwd)
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Andrew Alcott Shaver wrote:
> I don't care who I have to step on to get the house, and the car, and the
> princess. I like to be out there on the field, asserting myself, kicking ass.
> I like to get the princess. I want to suffer and then to win win win."
The great thing about this guy is at least he's honest about what he wants! The sad
thing is that he'll probably get it and spend the next 10, 20, 30 years living a
life of quiet desperation. Things are fine. Money is fine. A nice bod is fine. But
as an end itself, it's complete, utter shallowness. I read something from Yogananda
recently. He said that if you are attracted solely by physical appearances you
could end up married to a physically beautiful person who is a devil inside. And
we've all met those, haven't we! :-)
Nancy
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 02:52:34 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: caroline wilson <myspecial1ATnospamyahoo.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re:beware spooky dream kundalini rising
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At 01:12 AM 20/09/98 -0700, Caroline Wilson wrote:
>My dreams always tell me stuff.
>Last night i was dreaming i was running away from him and he kept
>stopping me. I never escaped in my dream.
>lots of love
>Caroline
>
You cannot get away from him in your dreams, because the man in your
dreams is a reflection of your own self. You must forgive him, or love bomb
him into oblivion. Remember, your unconscious mind is male, and it presents
you with stuff so you can release it with love.
Date: 23 Sep 98 15:18:57 +0000
From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Atheism
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Hello.
Last night I became an atheist. My idea of God was always a deception,
to think I could ever have an experience of such a thing. There is no
God.
I spent most of yesterday stripping people of their pedestals. I do
not understand it, but I woke up as nothing. I don't even know how I
got there. I remember there being many invisible questions and I gave
all the answers and I didn't even realise what I was doing. I had no
knowledge of it, like i just felt into it by accident. I didn't expect
this and it wasn't meant to happen. How can anyone ever know that they
are getting it right?
Last night my piddly thoughts started to become suddenly real. They
had a tremendous quality about them. It was as though reality was
entering my mind. Quickly and suddenly, I didn't even know it was
happening.
I feel myself turning away, so much turning away, negating everything,
I don't want to see it. I never thought God could be the biggest
enemy.
--
Paul.
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:10:46 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: spirits,soul..........
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I was thinking r the spirits and soul same?
Is soul completely pure free frm any distortions?
If soul is completely pure than it can't be equal to spirit for there is
a bad part in spirits.
Can spirits think ? they do suffer for have heard quite a few cases.
If i am looking for soul than who am I ?
love,
anurag
Date: 23 Sep 98 15:30:22 +0000
From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: beware spooky dream kundalini rising
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Angelique,
> You cannot get away from him in your dreams, because the man in your
> dreams is a reflection of your own self. You must forgive him, or love bomb
> him into oblivion. Remember, your unconscious mind is male, and it presents
> you with stuff so you can release it with love.
The unconscious only appears as the opposite sex when there is
illusion inbetween, defining it as other than the whole self.
--
Paul.
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:53:17 +0200
From: Zarko Kecman <icemanATnospaminecco.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: ce
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Can someone send to me a list of aura reading or anything what was
posted by Cosmic Energy
Greetings
Zarco
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:12:40 -0500
From: balaji_radhakrishnanATnospamem.fcnbd.com
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: newbie to the list
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Hi Everyone
Nice to join you all again after a gap of 6 months. I had been a
silent member before. I was in India and now am in New Jersey.
I got initiated to Kundalini Yoga 4 years before by Vethathiri
Maharishi in Temple of Consciousness, Aliyar in South India. It is
Simplified Kundalini Yoga that is brought to the common man by
Maharishi.
I have been practising it from then on. One interesting that I do is
to travel to places where people have attained Samadhi. I find it very
effective to meditate in and around places where people have attained
samadhi. The vibrations are very high. There are lots of places in
TamilNadu, India.
I have much to share my experiences.. in my coming posts.
Vazgha Valamudan. (Tamil)
Be Blessed by the Divine (English Version)
radhakrishnan
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