1998/09/17 12:21
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #661
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 661
Today's Topics: update [ Barbara Alexander ]
(no subject) [ Barbara Alexander ] Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #660 [ "de SIlva" ]
Re: to list [ "foster" ] Re: We need to define negativity... [ "Kat" ]
Re: We need to define negativity... [ "Sharon Webb" ] Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:45:31 -0400
From: Barbara Alexander To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com"
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This is from a book, the serpent power by Arthur Avalon.
In Theology this pure consciousness is Siva, and His Power {Sakti} who as She is in Her formless self is one with Him. She is the great
Devi, the Mother of the Universe who as the Life-Force resides in man's body in its lowest centre at the base of the spine just as Siva is realized
in the highest brain centre, the cerebrum or Sahasrara-Padma. Completed Yoga is the Union of Her and Him in body of Sadhaka. This is Laya
or dissolution, the reverse of Srsti or involution of Spirit in Mind and Matter.
It made sense to me. I hope that it will help answer the question. Please excuse typo errors,etc. I am very tired this
morning.
Dan is not a little boy, he is eighteen and in total denial about what is happening to him. Last night I was told that the finger
will have to be amputated but he has not yet been informed. They are giving him time to deal with the whole thing. He is my oldest
grandchild and has so much going for him. My youngest grandchild is seven months old. But I love all of them the same and that will
not change.
Eighteen or not, he is expecting Grandma to show up at the hospital today with cookies. The same recipe that i made for him when he was
seven, and twelve and sixteen. The same recipe that I make for my sons that are 25 and 29, the same recipe that I use for my stepson and
step daughter that are in their thirties.
Love is love and the basic recipe is the always the same. I think. When you show up with a container of love it is like that old cookie recipe
and it brings comfort because they have tasted it before and it is familiar. I think that i am losing my focus. Must go and bake those cookies.
Much love to all and much thanks. barb
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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:43:33 -0700 From: "RevDL.K.RM"
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Barb if I am near him I'll visit ,last night I did distance healing on his finger and went into the tissues ,communicating to
them the energy it was different.IF hes near carbon county pa,let me know,Denise
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Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
<kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 5:49 AMSubject:
update Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:50:47 -0400
From: Barbara Alexander To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com"
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Just got a call from my stepdaughter. The doctors say that the outside
tissue is looking really good. We aren't near Carbon County but thank you for offering. Last night my stepdaughter said that the only thing
that could save Dan's finger now would be divine intervention. I think this is true. Your thoughts and prayers are appreciated.
Much love to all, barb
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:03:54 -0700 From: "RevDL.K.RM"
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Barb ,I Love to al will keep sending energy to
him,Love to you and yours RevDenise
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Barb if I am near him I'll visit ,last night I did distance healing on his finger and went into the tissues
,communicating to them the energy it was different.IF hes near carbon county pa,let me know,Denise
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Message-----From: Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
<kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 5:49 AMSubject:
update Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:47:14 +0400
From: "de SIlva" To:
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Cam somebody send me digest #657 and #658 please.
I haven't received it by some Cybermistake. Peace
Linton
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:06:19 -0700 From: "foster"
To: "Kundalini" Subject: Re: to list
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Dear list, I am having very strange actions happening to my body when I give a Reiki
healing. I and a friend of mine exchange healings once a week. I have to give her one first because I tend to get too far into outer/inner space to
be able to walk and talk competently. She can feel my head pulsating and energy releases when she gives me one after I give her a healing. I need a
healing just to pull me back to the earth and ground me again, not to mention to get rid of the excruciating headache and muscle pain!
I have gotten used to the arm and body vibrations and contractions that I get and she has gotten used to feeling the energy just shoot into her during
them. But this last healing I gave, halfway down her back, my left hand started to move on it's own. It pressed and manipulated the muscles around
a spot on her spinal column. Pressed very hard and steadily (only slightly vibrating) against the left side of her spine. During this time I could feel
the pressure build up in my own eyes until the right one felt like it was being pierced and my hand and arm were cramping with the fingers feeling
like they were going to break. It was very painful for me but not at all for her, she could only feel intense energy and heat on the spots that were
being pressed. When my hand was finally able to move on it's own again, I hesitated to continue but did and moved my hand down to the next healing
site. And basically the same thing happened again! This time it rubbed back and forth very fast almost faster than I could move on my own. Then
pressed in very hard and vibrated. Then pain was excruciating for me but I could not pull my hand away. She told me that she had scoliosis in her spine
and the two spots I (someone) pressed and manipulated were her worst. The piercing feeling started again in my eye and then spread to my whole head
but focusing more pressure and pain in the third eye region. When the healing was finished, I found that it had taken two hours todo! I could not
see clearly... there was alot of colored light and foggy white light floating around in front of my vision. My balance was way off and I had to
hold onto the wall to find the bathroom to wash my hands and then to the kitchen to get water. The pain in my arms, hands and head was tremendous.
When it was her turn to give me a healing she could feel my third eye pulsating and muscles of my body releasing...major twitching going on. Her
healing helped the pain alot and balanced my energy, although today I am having pain in my muscles and am seeing lots of blue light. She can hardly
wait for the next healing because she finds it fascinating to see what I will do next! She says the healings I give her are the best and most
intense she has ever recieved....What will Shakti do next? Hopefully I will still be able to stand through it! Much Love, Julie
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:23:03 -0400 From: "Kat"
To: "Danijel Turina" Cc:
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Hi Danijel,
>>ready to be filled with light. The reality is I do have a dark side. The
>>truth is that with this knowledge I can shed light on it. >
>It is important to figure out _what_ your dark side really is. I would say >that the dark side means isolation from the reality.
Okay so far I understand......your'll understand the reason I made this
statement in a second.
Having that in mind, >you can understand why I perceive a lot of "love and light" stuff to be
>essentially dark.
Nope. lost me. Love and Light is always of the light unless it is being said with false words and feeling.
>If you are awake, observing reality and acting in harmony with it, I would
>call that the right course of action.
I agree.
Disharmony, even forcing the >"positive side" of things, is wrong.
I don't think one forces the postive side unless they are being untruthful
to themselves. I have begun to understand why a person might say positive things even though they may not completely believe it yet. When we speak
our words are heard by our unconsious side. This part of us will do what ever we say and does not take the time to analize wether we are correct in
our statment or not. So when we say we will have a good day.......the unconsious side says .......okay.....but if we wake up and say what a
miserable day it is our unconsious side also says.....okay......Do you see the point I am making? I do however understand your point as well. We must
be honest with ourselves at all times to the reality of what is happening.
>Negativity isn't always what it appears to be. Cowardly behavior, avoiding >the truth, ignorance, attachment to trivial, those are the things that I
>see as negative.
Yes this is your preception. We each have certain things that we view as negative and it fits into what we view as what we think is the reality.
What one persons reality is however can be very different from another persons reality. Neither reality is wrong. that is where people get so
hung up! This is where the wars break out! This is where peace is ended. This is where understanding and compassion is needed and beyond all
else......LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE of other people's views, thoughts and feelings. I do not know why so and so goes to war.....but so and so does
not understand why I do not go. Each person must make their own decision based on what they know at the time. To decide someone has made a mistake
in what they have decided one has made the fatal mistake of judging. None of us have the right to judge. Lord knows I am learning that I judge more
then I thought I did and I am working on correcting this.
>I have to think about this... >What exactly were the negative thoughts that I expressed? I made a
>diagnosis. If you are unable to make a correct estimate of the situation, >because of your fears of it, there is no way that you could do anything
>useful about it. So far I didn't hear someone responding to my diagnosis >with something relevant, I just hear objections about the way the diagnosis
>sounds. That really sounds encouraging, you can't imagine...
Wish I had saved the orginal message! Oh well I will try to answer this correctly.....I seem to recall that you were speaking of how everything
would fall apart if certain things happened. When one gives thought to negetive outcomes it helps to make it that negetive outcome to come about.
This too is a daily lesson that I have to work on! >
>>>The negativity is actually the better way to do things >>>here: you see what things are wrong and then you act to fix it. Simple.
>They could take the prototype, think positive ("it's good, it will work,
>people won't crash"), and make instructions for the drivers to drive slowly >and not disturb children and animals, the wheels would go off at 100 km/h
>but people aren't supposed to drive that fast anyway. That is why I object >so intensely to the "positive" shit that I encounter all the time.
The case you are speaking of here is not looking into the reality of things.
The reality is that drivers will drive fast through a childrens area, they will hit animals, and there are some pretty lousy drivers out there. The
people who make cars know this and they do their designs with this knowledge. They however are positive in their thinking that if they make a
change here and there that the car will not do as much damage and so on and because of certain added saftey features when the accidents take place
things may be not so bad. Being postive does not mean that you have to be blind to reality. Being Negetive does not make reality any better either.
We have to find the balance.
>Fortunately, it doesn't work. :) You see it for what it is, now you have >the responsibility to make choices.
that is what threw me into my tail spin for the last few months. I fully
became aware of what those responsiblities were and to be honest it scared the shit out of me! Also with this additional knowledge came a knowledge
about myself that I did not want to face because to face it would mean that my entire world as I knew it would change permently and all of what I have
known before would no longer be of any comfort to me. It means I will have to live by myself possibliy for the rest of my life. My greatest fear of
all! I knew this day would come and I did not want to be alone. Sorry I cannot explain this better as the knowledge is not complete for me yet.
In L&L & Understanding,
Kat
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:40:48 -0400 From: "Sharon Webb"
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Kat said:
>our words are heard by our unconsious side. This part of us will do what
>ever we say and does not take the time to analize wether we are correct in >our statment or not.
I definitely believe this is true; however, there is a paradoxical side to
it, too.
I know a woman who constantly says that she is "filled with the light and love of Jesus Christ." And she goes on to say that she has "forgiven" her
mother-in-law (dead many years) for alleged wrongs. Yet...just about anyone who observes this woman can see that she hasn't forgiven anyone and that she
is filled with rage, so here's a case where self-convincing just didn't work.
Sharon
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