1998/09/11 03:37
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #648
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 648
Today's Topics:
Re: Energy Fluctuations [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Abrupt end of our series! [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
RE: Abrupt end of our series! [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
CFS and Fibromyalgia [ eggers <****ATnospamtwsuvm.uc.twsu.edu> ]
help [ Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz> ]
Re: help [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: help [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
RE: help [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
Re: help [ "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net> ]
Testing...again [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ]
two copies [ Siva <guardianATnospamihug.co.nz> ]
'WHO DANIJEL, WHO?' (was re: Views.. [ Rik Wallace <love_rikATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Re: thunder storms and tempers [ "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: 'WHO DANIJEL, WHO?' (was re: Vie [ Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz> ]
Re: 'WHO DANIJEL, WHO?' (was re: Vie [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.co ]
Re: help [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.co ]
Excessive body heat prob [ "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotma ]
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:07:59 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
Cc: "Marybeth Gottshall" <kmgATnospamtaconic.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Energy Fluctuations
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At 11:56 PM 05/09/98 -0400, Rick Puravs wrote:
>.......i am already resigned to undergoing all these symptoms, as i feel them
>already present and becoming stronger.....but as i read this i get these
rushes
>in my chest area and back that feel good and are fairly intense......and
then i
>notice that the joint aches are pretty much gone, though i'm still
experiencing a
>lot of heat, but over the next hour or so, the heat also
dissipates.....it's like a
>blockage has been removed somewhere, or something......and what you are
>writing about here is not really a revelation to me, but a restating in
your terms
>of experiences and beliefs i already have......i think it has much to do
with attention......reading your narrative draws my attention to things i
already know
>at some level, and that releases the energy which had been becoming pent up
>
>Mudita,
> Rick
>
Sounds pretty complicated.. how about, "Where two or more are gathered
in My name, I am there...." When we read each other's experiences, and
accept the energy of expression that comes with it, we are joined..
unified. We shaktizap each other in this way, all the time.
Beautiful place, ain't it? :)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:24:12 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Abrupt end of our series!
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At 09:10 PM 10/09/98 +0500, cosmic energy wrote:
>Dear friends,
>That is to say, we have decided to put an abrupt end to this
>series.
Thankyou. You were requested to do this some time ago.. the information
is very interesting, however this is a discussion list, not a publishing
forum.
We are in the process of updating the K-list website, and seeking members
essays to publish on it. If you would like to do that, then send me the
essay series directly, not to the list, and be very patient.
> Hi, fella, buddy , let us continue to talk of the dreams, who is
>missing whom, vultures, relations, spanking one another, and all the BS -
>which interests everyone! Any howling?
Well, I am sorry you need to take on this "sour grapes" attitude, but do
as you feel. If you don't like this list, there are many many others out
there, or you can even start your own.
>With profound love and regards,
>Ms.Seema
Bless you, too...
>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:55:21 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Abrupt end of our series!
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> Harsha: [...]
> As I
> suggested to
> you in an earlier post, why not post your information on a web
> page. [...]
Nancy:
> I think Harsha's idea of Cosmic Energy starting a web site was
> appropriate.
> So much information without discussion fits a web page not a mail
> discussion
> group.
Jan: your wish is my command [:>
take a look at:
http://primeindia.com/clairovoyant.htm
It is an Indian "yellow page" on the web.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 98 19:09:26 CDT
From: eggers <****ATnospamtwsuvm.uc.twsu.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: CFS and Fibromyalgia
Message-Id: <199809110010.TAA24933ATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Dear El,
Thank you for your insightful post on CFS and Kundalini. I am going to look
up your article. Can you tell me and others on the list how to get on the
mailing list for Shared Transformation? (Or perhaps most everyone else
knows; I am fairly new to the list.) And also, who is Rick? I have heard two
references now to him in relation to this subject; perhaps he is also writing
about it?
Thanks again for your notes, they were very helpful to me.
Jill
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:18:13 +1200
From: Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: help
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Hi
can someone help put me right, but I seem to have developed a judgemental
character towards other healing for money, I mean people charging a lot of
money for thier spiritual services. I feel it is wrong.
give me food for thought:)
Charan
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:53:48 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: help
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Charan wrote:
>can someone help put me right, but I seem to have developed a judgemental
>character towards other healing for money, I mean people charging a lot of
>money for thier spiritual services. I feel it is wrong.
>give me food for thought:)
I know exactly how you feel. Yet, at the same time, if a healer heals as a
fulltime job, can we deny him/her a living? Gouging is one thing, but an
honest fee is quite another. After all, we expect doctors and dentists and
chiropractors to ask for fees, and we pay massage therapists,
hypnotherapists, and the like. We even pay ministers when they perform
weddings and so on. Why should spiritual healers be the only ones left out?
Sharon
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:12:45 EDT
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: help
Message-ID: <8a832336.35f8790dATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 9/10/98 8:11:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz writes:
<< can someone help put me right, but I seem to have developed a judgemental
character towards other healing for money, I mean people charging a lot of
money for thier spiritual services. I feel it is wrong.
give me food for thought:) >>
I know what you mean! I'm with you sister.
For my best 'food for thought', that will be $89.95 up front please for my
spiritual services.
Love,
xxxtg
(a sneak preview:)
* When everything looks upside down, its time to look up *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:58:11 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, "Siva" <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
Subject: RE: help
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> Hi
>
> can someone help put me right, but I seem to have developed a judgemental
> character towards other healing for money, I mean people charging a lot of
> money for thier spiritual services. I feel it is wrong.
> give me food for thought:)
>
> Charan
Jan: If spiritual healing is one's (only) profession, what would be against
paying for the service, provided the cures are "real"? Another perspective
is, if one's healing ability is a siddhi (a power that comes as a
"byproduct" of one's spiritual life) and one has a regular job (different
from healing). Such a person could heal only those people, willing to change
lifestyle so that this or a related disease would not repeat. In this case,
it is spiritual help (setting someone out on a path) and it is free of
charge. As a siddhi doesn't come alone, one will have the intuition to make
both a living by healing as to heal the poor and spiritually promising ones
for free. Using siddhis has a danger: "I knew a yogi, the disciple of a
great master, who achieved great power, soothed the savage, healed the sick,
led an austere life, but succumbed to fame. He gave the same prescription to
a man with piles and to a man with phthisis and both were cured. But his
vanity ruined him. His master watched him..."
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 22:32:08 -0700
From: "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net>
To: <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>, <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: help
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I also do not like to charge alot of money for healing,
so I do it this way,For people who want Reiki I charge a small fee,
Attunements are a little more for my time ect,
Then there are the senior citz,they don't know of reiki, so I do spiritual
healing on love donations only ,and that works out nicely I actually end up
with more than I felt comfortable asking for,
And I always heal weather anyone can afford it or not,
A hug will do, and my guides tell me when someone can't afford it, I
make herbal salves and oils from the herbs I grow and I do let alot of older
people just have one to try then they can pay for another if they like,
But I always know who needs healing and loving hands on them and thats
where I get my satisfaction from,and yes the fee helps out with 9 children
to support,but this is not all I do ,
Its only one of the talents I have tapped into, to help all and my family..
.Where I live the people don't have alot to give,but thats ok,
I am the one who wants to give it freely,
But they tend to not come back because it was free,
They want to be charged something,also I love to barter,that can be
interesting too>> Love to all of you from my heart you have helped heal my
fears lately and you didn't charge anything!!!! Denise
-----Original Message-----
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>; kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
<kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: help
>In a message dated 9/10/98 8:11:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz writes:
>
><< can someone help put me right, but I seem to have developed a
judgemental
> character towards other healing for money, I mean people charging a lot of
> money for thier spiritual services. I feel it is wrong.
> give me food for thought:) >>
>
>
>I know what you mean! I'm with you sister.
>
>For my best 'food for thought', that will be $89.95 up front please for my
>spiritual services.
>
>Love,
>xxxtg
>
>(a sneak preview:)
>
> * When everything looks upside down, its time to look up *
>
>http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html
>
>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:20:54 EDT
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Testing...again
Message-ID: <a778576d.35f89716ATnospamaol.com>
After an absence of 1 month...& there are NO emails from k-list (out of 400
subscribers)??? Well, tomorrow perhaps I'll report on some veddy interesting
k-things that happened to me recently...if anyone's out there. Hello. Hello?
--Michele
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:02:56 +1200
From: Siva <guardianATnospamihug.co.nz>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: two copies
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Hi
I am getting two copies of the emails from the list, anyone know what could
be causing it please?
Charan
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rik Wallace <love_rikATnospamyahoo.com>
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>, hlutharATnospambryant.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: 'WHO DANIJEL, WHO?' (was re: Views...IV)
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---Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com> wrote:
>
> >> you are basically saying that
> >
> > Rik: WHO is saying that? WHO, Danijel?
>
> <snipping intensely>
>
> I have a feeling that this sort of aggression, in
> insisting on "this idiot on the other side to finally
> figure it out" (the idiot being me on this occasion) is a
> clear symptom that you have much to figure
> out yourself in that matter...
EXACTLY! That is why I have come to you, My Guru,
with only one question. 'WHO ARE YOU, Danijel? WHO?'
I'm sorry Master if you have found me an arrogant pest...
I can only do my best, to serve you. If you will simply
answer my one question, I will promise not to haunt
you in the depths of your imagination forever and ever
and ever as 'The One Who Wouldn't Stop Asking
"WHO Danijel WHO?"' I know that may sound like spiritual
blackmail, but I promise you will grow to enjoy it. :)
Just one question, Pleeeeeeeeeze?? and i will vanish...
(That one doesn't count :) One question remaining that I
still do not know the answer to, and fear that I may never
find out for sure. WHO ARE YOU DANIJEL? WHO?
[... now I've done it... I've gone and annoyed My Master
yet again... I shall never receive the answer now!]
> I Am One... the Knower without the known. One without the
> other. I am One, Self in all beings, undivided by
> manifestation...
[oh, he must be meditating... he sounds really high...
enjoying states I've never known and perhaps will never
recognize... I've heard that in those states, one feels
immense peace, love, and unity with all. Boy, no
wonder he's so annoyed with me! I wonder if he can
see me... I must look so stupid...]
> I really had it with you guys who entered samadhi state
> and now you think you are the self realized sages who can
> teach the world on Its True Nature.
Me too, doggone it! Sing it Danijel! Praise to thee!
[well, he's obviously not addressing me, since I match
none of that description as far as he knows. Harsha
claims to know various Samadhis, but he's upholding a
career as a scholar, so why believe him? ;) I like his
writing tho... -- oops, distracted again...]
> Bullshit. If you have nothing better to say just don't say
> it, and save bandwidth.
[ Dang, he's on to my act... what now... I've gotta
get his attention somehow... I know - telepathy!]
(You think I'm joking? How dare you! This is
a spiritual list!)
> Next time one of you guys decides to write me stuff like
> that, first know that I know all that stuff, and since
> I'm still writing what I'm writing, you better pay
> attention, because that might prove that you missed
> something while you were busy realizing yourselves.
Yes, My Master, I'll admit that's probably the case.
I'd been previously seduced by another Guru who was,
shall we say... "less sure of himself"... until I came
to recognize your voice as the one in my conscience.
Since you use such aggressive words to differentiate
yourself from the other Gurus, as uncommonly above them,
it is clear that you must 'know yourself' like none other.
I would like to know you with such clarity also, so
I continue to ask you "WHO ARE YOU DANIJEL? WHO"?
PLEEEZZE do not deny me this small bit of knowledge!
> This is the Kundalini list. Interest of the people present
> here might prove to be more on the manifested side of it,
> like manifesting higher consciousness, deeper love and
> more balanced actions.
Yes, My Master... in fact, I believe I have manifested
this need you speak of to cater to my listening audience
and entertain them with popular caricatures of sappiness,
eccentricity, and paradox. Is this what you advocate?
I did notice that your spiritual battle-stories received
even higher ratings than your imaginative dilineations of
different types of fanstasy worlds. They just ate it up!
I'd be very interested in your program research.
> There always is the I AM list for those who are not
> interested in those things and prefer asking
> "WHO is it that is saying that? WHO?".
Forgive me, My Master, for I did not mean to give the
impression that I AM ONE with *THOSE* concise-ters!
I am *different*. In fact, I have banished them from
my self-image! [nya nya, take that, IAM-List! :b]
Unlike those manifest-destitutes, I am asking you
FOR REAL .... "WHO ARE YOU DANIJEL? WHO?"
Please do not shuffle me back into the masses. :(
I am *special*!
> That might be a nice ego-boost (oh,
> how Self-realized, how detached, how enlightened I
> Really Am... sigh... and I Am still in the world, you
> know, helping the least fortunate ones to know
> My True Nature), but I think it is just plain and pure
> ego- crap.
My Master, with your great experience with ego-affliction,
could you please remove it for me? I know you prefer to
help those of us who are 'manifesters', but could you
make an exception and *unmanifest* my ego for me??
Pleeeeeeze?? It's in my Way, and it makes me say things.
I want to be knowledgeless as you and humble enough not
to yak about it. I obviously have a problem.
Please help! I'm sure that if I could just get a clear
answer to my question, I could model you and become
just as great. WHO ARE YOU DANIJEL? WHO?
If you'll just answer to my own satisfaction, I will
stop being a pest as far as you know... that is
unless you decide to take me on as Tvoj Studentic,
in which case I will honor every Divine Word sprecheth
from your lips and manifest every fantasy conjured
by your high magic. If it be your bidding, I would
even be your tantric slave and humbly assist you in
fulfilling your grandest warrior inclinations.
Just answer my question: WHO ARE YOU DANIJEL? WHO?
For I must know if you are indeed My True Guru as
I have suspected, or if I am merely deluding myself
as I am known to do.
Yours in Spirit and Manifestation,
love_rikATnospamyahoo.com
P.S. Although I am a fool and a joker, please do
not interpret my words as tongue-in-cheek sarcasm.
I am sincere.
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:17:48 PDT
From: "alan gaskins" <ravenkrossATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
Subject: Re: thunder storms and tempers
Message-ID: <19980911071749.2821.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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P. S. There was a thunderstorm here, too. :-)
(Playing catch-up) We just went through hurricane Bonnie here - ponder
the relative possibilities...:-)!
Everthing is relative to the mind, including the mind itself...
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:53:58 +1200
From: Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: rik_wATnospamrocketmail.com, Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>,
hlutharATnospambryant.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: 'WHO DANIJEL, WHO?' (was re: Views...IV)
Message-Id: <Version.32.19980911195320.00dc9e60ATnospampop.ihug.co.nz>
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can you two please take this to the personal mail:)
Charan
At 22:00 10/09/98 -0700, Rik Wallace wrote:
>
>
>---Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> you are basically saying that
>> >
>> > Rik: WHO is saying that? WHO, Danijel?
>>
>> <snipping intensely>
>>
>> I have a feeling that this sort of aggression, in
>> insisting on "this idiot on the other side to finally
>> figure it out" (the idiot being me on this occasion) is a
>> clear symptom that you have much to figure
>> out yourself in that matter...
>
> EXACTLY! That is why I have come to you, My Guru,
> with only one question. 'WHO ARE YOU, Danijel? WHO?'
>
> I'm sorry Master if you have found me an arrogant pest...
> I can only do my best, to serve you. If you will simply
> answer my one question, I will promise not to haunt
> you in the depths of your imagination forever and ever
> and ever as 'The One Who Wouldn't Stop Asking
> "WHO Danijel WHO?"' I know that may sound like spiritual
> blackmail, but I promise you will grow to enjoy it. :)
>
> Just one question, Pleeeeeeeeeze?? and i will vanish...
> (That one doesn't count :) One question remaining that I
> still do not know the answer to, and fear that I may never
> find out for sure. WHO ARE YOU DANIJEL? WHO?
>
> [... now I've done it... I've gone and annoyed My Master
> yet again... I shall never receive the answer now!]
>
>> I Am One... the Knower without the known. One without the
>> other. I am One, Self in all beings, undivided by
>> manifestation...
>
> [oh, he must be meditating... he sounds really high...
> enjoying states I've never known and perhaps will never
> recognize... I've heard that in those states, one feels
> immense peace, love, and unity with all. Boy, no
> wonder he's so annoyed with me! I wonder if he can
> see me... I must look so stupid...]
>
>> I really had it with you guys who entered samadhi state
>> and now you think you are the self realized sages who can
>> teach the world on Its True Nature.
>
> Me too, doggone it! Sing it Danijel! Praise to thee!
> [well, he's obviously not addressing me, since I match
> none of that description as far as he knows. Harsha
> claims to know various Samadhis, but he's upholding a
> career as a scholar, so why believe him? ;) I like his
> writing tho... -- oops, distracted again...]
>
>> Bullshit. If you have nothing better to say just don't say
>> it, and save bandwidth.
>
> [ Dang, he's on to my act... what now... I've gotta
> get his attention somehow... I know - telepathy!]
>
> (You think I'm joking? How dare you! This is
> a spiritual list!)
>
>> Next time one of you guys decides to write me stuff like
>> that, first know that I know all that stuff, and since
>> I'm still writing what I'm writing, you better pay
>> attention, because that might prove that you missed
>> something while you were busy realizing yourselves.
>
> Yes, My Master, I'll admit that's probably the case.
> I'd been previously seduced by another Guru who was,
> shall we say... "less sure of himself"... until I came
> to recognize your voice as the one in my conscience.
> Since you use such aggressive words to differentiate
> yourself from the other Gurus, as uncommonly above them,
> it is clear that you must 'know yourself' like none other.
> I would like to know you with such clarity also, so
> I continue to ask you "WHO ARE YOU DANIJEL? WHO"?
> PLEEEZZE do not deny me this small bit of knowledge!
>
>> This is the Kundalini list. Interest of the people present
>> here might prove to be more on the manifested side of it,
>> like manifesting higher consciousness, deeper love and
>> more balanced actions.
>
> Yes, My Master... in fact, I believe I have manifested
> this need you speak of to cater to my listening audience
> and entertain them with popular caricatures of sappiness,
>eccentricity, and paradox. Is this what you advocate?
> I did notice that your spiritual battle-stories received
> even higher ratings than your imaginative dilineations of
> different types of fanstasy worlds. They just ate it up!
> I'd be very interested in your program research.
>
>> There always is the I AM list for those who are not
>> interested in those things and prefer asking
>> "WHO is it that is saying that? WHO?".
>
> Forgive me, My Master, for I did not mean to give the
> impression that I AM ONE with *THOSE* concise-ters!
> I am *different*. In fact, I have banished them from
> my self-image! [nya nya, take that, IAM-List! :b]
> Unlike those manifest-destitutes, I am asking you
> FOR REAL .... "WHO ARE YOU DANIJEL? WHO?"
> Please do not shuffle me back into the masses. :(
> I am *special*!
>
>> That might be a nice ego-boost (oh,
>> how Self-realized, how detached, how enlightened I
>> Really Am... sigh... and I Am still in the world, you
>> know, helping the least fortunate ones to know
>> My True Nature), but I think it is just plain and pure
>> ego- crap.
>
> My Master, with your great experience with ego-affliction,
> could you please remove it for me? I know you prefer to
> help those of us who are 'manifesters', but could you
> make an exception and *unmanifest* my ego for me??
> Pleeeeeeze?? It's in my Way, and it makes me say things.
> I want to be knowledgeless as you and humble enough not
> to yak about it. I obviously have a problem.
> Please help! I'm sure that if I could just get a clear
> answer to my question, I could model you and become
> just as great. WHO ARE YOU DANIJEL? WHO?
>
> If you'll just answer to my own satisfaction, I will
> stop being a pest as far as you know... that is
> unless you decide to take me on as Tvoj Studentic,
> in which case I will honor every Divine Word sprecheth
> from your lips and manifest every fantasy conjured
> by your high magic. If it be your bidding, I would
> even be your tantric slave and humbly assist you in
> fulfilling your grandest warrior inclinations.
> Just answer my question: WHO ARE YOU DANIJEL? WHO?
> For I must know if you are indeed My True Guru as
> I have suspected, or if I am merely deluding myself
> as I am known to do.
>
> Yours in Spirit and Manifestation,
> love_rikATnospamyahoo.com
>
> P.S. Although I am a fool and a joker, please do
> not interpret my words as tongue-in-cheek sarcasm.
> I am sincere.
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:18:00 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
To: rik_wATnospamrocketmail.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: 'WHO DANIJEL, WHO?' (was re: Views...IV)
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At 22:00 1998.09.10 -0700, Rik Wallace wrote:
>---Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> you are basically saying that
>> >
>> > Rik: WHO is saying that? WHO, Danijel?
>>
>> <snipping intensely>
>>
>> I have a feeling that this sort of aggression, in
>> insisting on "this idiot on the other side to finally
>> figure it out" (the idiot being me on this occasion) is a
>> clear symptom that you have much to figure
>> out yourself in that matter...
>
> EXACTLY! That is why I have come to you, My Guru,
> with only one question. 'WHO ARE YOU, Danijel? WHO?'
>
> I'm sorry Master if you have found me an arrogant pest...
> I can only do my best, to serve you. If you will simply
> answer my one question, I will promise not to haunt
> you in the depths of your imagination forever and ever
> and ever as 'The One Who Wouldn't Stop Asking
> "WHO Danijel WHO?"' I know that may sound like spiritual
> blackmail, but I promise you will grow to enjoy it. :)
Rick, take a bucket of ice-cold water, and sit in it. You might even cool
off. It is known that sometimes people with unbalanced energy develop
excessive body heat, and it can go into the brain and cause them to behave
all weird, you know. ;>
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:28:28 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
To: Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>, "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: help
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At 12:18 1998.09.11 +1200, Siva wrote:
>Hi
>
>can someone help put me right, but I seem to have developed a judgemental
>character towards other healing for money, I mean people charging a lot of
>money for thier spiritual services. I feel it is wrong.
>give me food for thought:)
Hmm yes, I think we are really comming to the issue of charging money for
anything spiritual; there were several discussions about that on a
hr.fido.religija newsgroup (Croatian) that I participate in. Ratko Jakopec
and I agreed on a conclusion: sooner or later a teacher/healer will either
have to ask students/patients to give him money so he can buy something to
eat, or tell them that he doesn't have time to teach/heal them because he
has to go and feed the cow (or work on a computer to make money, all the
same). The time is the issue here, not the work being done. Because if the
healer uses up all his time healing, and doesn't charge for it, he won't
have any money and will starve; if he uses all the time to earn money by
making web sites or something, he won't have the time to heal. Just my view
on it...
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:17:23 PDT
From: "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Excessive body heat prob
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<big snip>
>It is known that sometimes people with unbalanced energy develop
>excessive body heat, and it can go into the brain and cause them to
behave
>all weird, you know. ;>
Well, it doesn't cause me to act all weird, but it does sometimes cause
me to be awake at 2AM feeling really hot when the outside temp is 75
degrees. And interestingly enough, my body temp reads only 96.6!!
-E
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